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Perry, GA Show Report JAN 25th, 26th, 27th

Perry, GA Show JAN 25th, 26th, 27th
This is my third show report to post on this forum. I specialize is US Philippine coins (1903-1945) but also deal in US Type coins as the US Philippine coins have a smaller collector base. For those of you who did not read my last report, I started dealing full time this month. I do not have a store front but I do have a website (JHRareCoins.com) and try to attend coin shows as often as possible.

This is a larger regional show with maybe 70-100 dealers. I am always actively looking for wholesale deals as this is another way to supplement my coin business. I travel to “we buy gold” places and pawnshops within about a two hour radius and attempt to buy any scrap, bullion, mint, proof sets etc. in bulk. The margins are thin, but as long as you know what those margins are you can easily turn a few hundred dollars to help with overhead. On one such transaction I already had all of the expenses for this show covered once I delivered the items to the show. I think the average collector would be very surprised about the amount of wholesale activity that takes place at coin shows. Even more surprised to know that some dealers ONLY attend for the wholesale business and could care less about dealing with the public at the shows.

On Friday, I did a lot of wholesale business, but remember I am small time, so a lot for me is in the 4-8K range. There is also a lot of dealer to dealer trading of type coins going on at this time, so set-up and the hours before a show opens can be some of the busiest times. I was able to sell 5-6 nice coins to other dealers who needed them to fill want lists, as well as purchase around 20 new US Philippine coins for inventory. If you do not know already, I specialize in US Philippine coins so I have a few dealers who always bring them to me whenever they get them in stock.

Saturday, came and went without too much excitement. The show was slower than I remembered the last time I was here, (two years ago, I was in Afghanistan last year) but I still did ok. In between checking other dealer’s inventory to fill want lists I had, I was able to sell a steady stream of US Type coins. Mostly in the range of $50-$150 but I also sold the nice AU Bust half and 1795 large cent that I bought raw the previous weekend in Foley, AL. I was able to purchase a beautiful 1881-S Morgan in PCGS MS67 for inventory as well. The dealer had two of them, so I picked the most appealing and bought it. It has nice bright yellow and golden hues around the edges of the obverse, I liked it!

By the time Sunday came around, a lot of the dealers had already packed up and left. Sundays are normally very slow at coin shows but I still managed to stay pretty busy, surprisingly busy to say the least. I was able to purchase a nice 1921 peace dollar in PCGS MS64 and a 1914-D Lincoln in PCGS VF35 with a green bean! Surprisingly, those where my only US Type NEWPS at this show. I am actually getting concerned that I have too many coins above the $500 mark as coins in the $50-$200 range have always been my bread and butter… Unfortunately, nice original type coins in VF-EF are hard to source in quantity. (At least in prices that I can purchase to re-sell). I did have some really high end Franklin halves offered to me at this show, unfortunately I do not have the customer base to justify sinking 3K into two franklins… They were nice coins though.

I also attempted to purchase a pair of high grade (MS67) US Philippine 50 Centavos, I offered $350 for the pair, one I valued at $100 and the other at $250 but the person who had them just saw a similar coins in a PCGS holder sell for $700. (these were NGC) I tried explaining the difference and showed him the pop reports, (PCGS lists 3 in that grade while NGC lists 23) but he wasn’t buying it that his coin was not worth $700. He placed it in another dealer’s case at the show to try and sell it, he didn’t… I know another dealer tried to make an offer to purchase it (with the intent to come and sell it to me…. Sneaky dealers…..) But when he found out how much they were asking walked straight over to me and wanted to know why they wanted $700 for a $200 coin?

Lessons Learned:
You do not have to purchase everything that comes your way. Only purchase what you think you can sell.
Don’t tie up all of your capital in more expensive slower moving inventory, until you have the customer base and/or the capital to do so.
I actively collect, buy and sell US minted Philippine coins from 1903-1945. I am interested in anything during this period, Albums, Proof sets, collections, original rolls and bags, Cullion Leper colony coins etc.
Also a big fan of liberty seated coins.

Comments

  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    Nice report - and very informative to read reports from the dealer's side.

    (one thing, though - a blank line between paragraphs makes things easier on my old(er) eyes!)

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  • HintonatorHintonator Posts: 95 ✭✭✭
    I fixed it image
    I actively collect, buy and sell US minted Philippine coins from 1903-1945. I am interested in anything during this period, Albums, Proof sets, collections, original rolls and bags, Cullion Leper colony coins etc.
    Also a big fan of liberty seated coins.
  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice report. Thanks for taking the time to post it.
    This is the first year in quite a few that I did not attend the show.
    Mainly because the past few years I found little that interested me.

  • jedmjedm Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the informative post. I also enjoy seeing things from another point of view. Keep them coming!
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Lots of dealers only deal exclusively with other dealers. I'm not that exclusive but at least 90% of my business is done with other dealers.

    Those non public dealers are often the huge players most people have never heard of. They tend to sell more volume but with much smaller margins than the retail dealers. They tend to be much better at grading coins as well.
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  • AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭
    Great report. Thank you for taking the time.
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  • s4nys4ny Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭
    I used to live in Macon and knew Jack Leach, a coin/bullion dealer. He had an office in the Ga. Power Bldg.

    Is he still in the business?
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭
    Nice report. I particularly enjoy your view as a new dealer.

    Keep 'em coming.
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  • mustanggtmustanggt Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the report

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