OCC - YOS - most valuable coins thread - all denoms - updated 2-4-13

LanceNewmanOCC

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I'll do some auditing and refining Wednesday evening or probably thursday, a home day. i'll be breaking the denoms out by type more extensively then.


last updated 2-7-13

most valuable based on sales (auction) results, preferably auction, but rumored/reported/website/private/brokered sales considered.

only america/pre-america considered. 1500 a.d. forward

i'll be organizing the stats a little better as we get more results.

**coins subject to be moved on the listing based on updated information.

***how to handle coins that sell again for lower prices than before.

BS - PF - SP

(denom)(date/mm)(grade)(type/attrib)(hammer/sold)(provenance)(link/firm/auct#)(lot)(date)

1/2c BS
1. - 1793 - $350,000.00+
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1c ANY
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1c - Large - BS
1. - 1793 - PCGS MS65BN - S-4 - $1,380,000.00 w/premium - Cleneay-Atwa ter-Eliasberg - Heritage #1166 - lot 3020 - Jan. 4, 2012 (22, 091 page views. seems high, no?)
2. - 1795 - PCGS VG10 - S-79 - $1,265,000.00 w/premium - Mehl-Clapp-Newcomb-Sheldon-Naftger-Holmes Goldberg's #54 - lot 128 - Sept. 6-9, 2009 - VIDEO - From the Dan Holmes Sale Part I Early Dates - Bob G. Presents
3. - husak sale - for future use.
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1c - Large - PF
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1c - Flying eagle - BS
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1c- Indian - BS
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1c- Indian - PF
1. 1864-L Cent PCGS PR-65 RB (1999) Purchased outright by Legend for addition to one of the finest Indian Cent proof sets it is exclusively assembling. The purchase price set a world record for a small cent: $96,000.00.
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1c - Lincoln - Wheat - BS
1. - 1943-D - PCGS MS64BN - Copper - $1,700,000.00 - Sperber - Legend - Private Treaty - 2010
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1c - Lincoln - Wheat - PF
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1c - Lincoln - Memorial - BS
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1c - Lincoln - Memorial - PF
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2c BS
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2c PF
1. - 1864 - PCGS 65RD - SM - $112,125 - - Baltimore Stacks - 2012
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3c N-
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h10c - BS
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h10c - PF
1. - recent (SP)67
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5. 1870-S PCGS MS-64 HALF DIME-UNIQUE! (2004) One of the rarest coins in the world! This is the ONLY known specimen. Legend purchased this coin for $661,250.00 (sold for more than this price)

5c - Liberty Head
1. - 1913 $5,000,000.00 - Legend - 2007
2. 5C 1913 PCGS PF-64 Liberty Head nickel (2003) The coin was part of our Legend Rarities Collection alongside other choice numismatics treasures. We sold this great rarity in 2004. At the time of the sale, the coin was valued at $3,000,000.00!
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5c - Shield
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5c - Indian Head (Buffalo)
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10c - ANY (?)
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10c - Early
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10c - Seated
1. - 1873 - CC - $1.84M all in - VIDEO
2. 10C 1894-S NGC PR-66 THE FINEST! (2005) -
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20c
1. - 1876-CC from Rarities Night last week at $480K+juice
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25c
1. - 1796 25c MS67 reportedly sold in 1989 for $1M+ private sale
2. - 1807 25c
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50c
1. - Koshkarian 1797 NGC MS66 $840K+ juice (ex:Norweb)
2. 50C 1838-O NGC PR-64 NORWEB (2002) An incredible cameoed specimen. Believed to be the finest known. Less than 20 pieces were minted. Now part of the Legend Collection of Classic Rarities. Worth well in excess of $250,000.00
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100c - MS
1. 1891-CC MORGAN DOLLAR PCGS MS-68 PL (2003)
2. 1893-s $500k+ HA
3. 89-cc MS68 HA
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100c - PF
1. - 1804 - Class I - PCGS PF68 - Stacks/Bowers (archives online not accessable) - 1999
2. - 1804 - PR68 - $4,140,000 - Pogues
3. - 1804 - NGC PF62 - Class I - $3,737,500.00 w/premium - Mickley/Hawn/Queller - Heritage #1104 - lot 2089 - Apr 17, 2008 - VIDEO - (done-use this format)
4. - 1898 Proof Dollar NGC PR-69 (1999) This piece is acknowledged by the National Silver Dollar Roundtable as being the Finest dollar in existence. (1794-1935)
5. - Amon Carter 1804 Dollar (1998) Class III 1804. It's pedigree has a list of the who's who in numismatics. Legend outright purchased this major rarity for just under $1,000,000.
6. - 1885 TRARE DOLLAR $1 ELIASBERG PR-66 (1999) By far the finest of only 5 known. Purchased out right by Legend in 1999 for $1,500,000.
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100c - SP
1. - 1794 - SP66 - $10,016.875.00 - Stacks/Bowers - 2013 - VIDEO
1a. Previous sale: 1794 SP66 - $7,000,000.00+ 2010

100c - Trade
1. THE SECOND FINEST 1885 TRADE DOLLAR (2004) $920k - last auction
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100c - Morgan
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100c - Seated
1. 1866 $1 NGC PR-63 NO MOTTO (2005) $1,207,500.00. purchase price
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$1 Gold
1. - 1849-C open wreath Richmond brought 600K+juice
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$2.5
1. - 1796 NS QE PCGS MS65 past Heritage FUN $1M+
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$3
1. - 1855-S PR64 - over $1M Heritage last year
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$4
1. - 1880 $4 Coiled Hair. Judd-1660. Pollock-1860. PR66 Cameo NGC. Sold For: $977,500.00 (pattern and $4)
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$5
1. - 1828 PCGS PR64 $1,380,000 Heritage - 2012
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$10
1. - 20-S $10 MS67 $1,725,000
2. - 33 $10 MS66 brought $600K is Stacks 6-7 years ago
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$10 PF
1. - 1804 NGC PR65 UCAMEO - $5,000,000.00 - Legend - 2010
2. $10 1933 NGC MS-66 THE FINEST KNOWN! (2004) One of the most desireable rarities that exists! Legend purchased this piece at the Stacks 69th anniversery sale for $718,750.00.
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$20
1. - $7,590,020.00 - 1933 Saint - 2002
2. NGC MS-67 Sold by Legend via Private Treaty for just under $1,000,000
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commems (early) -
1. LAFAYETTE DOLLAR PCGS MS-67 (2002) This is the original MS67 coin graded by PCGS. This coin has a price history in excess of $125,000.00.
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pattern - misc. denoms
1. - 1c - 1792 - PCGS MS67 - Judd 1 - $5,000,000.00+ - no prov - Legend - private treaty - 2012
2. - H10C - 1792 - NGC MS68 - Judd-7 - $1,145,625.00 w/premium - Rittenhous/Contursi - Stack's-Bowers #180 - lot 13093 - 2013
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colonial - by colony?
1. Dwight Manley's NE Shilling $400K+ Heritage 2011
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medal - Jackson medal brought 200K++ in Stacks sale within last 5 years or so
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hobo nickel -
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by mintmark

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any other denoms/types?

I'll also link up as many images (auction records) as I can.
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by composition - maybe


half way from the bottom of legend archives link

coinlieutenant

Is 100c a gold dollar?

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>Is 100c a gold dollar? >>



fixed. tx
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SmEagle1795

Worth adding $50 for the slugs and Pan Pacs, maybe a separate line item for commemoratives.

yosclimber

Another way to label those would be:
S $1
G $1

You are maintaining a 6 column table (denom, date, grade, price, venue, sale date),
but the forum doesn't have an easy to format such a table.
It might work better to maintain it in an Excel spreadsheet, then take a screen shot, trim it,
host it on a website and post the image here.

Example:

Updated - cleaned up as much as I could.
I think it's helpful to keep the number of rows small enough to fit on one screen, so the whole thing is in view.

link to the spreadsheet:
http://www.stanford.edu/%7Eclint/cp/US_max_prices_short.xls

P.S. I think much of the data you seek is on CoinFacts.
For example the 20c and $3 are easy to look up. The old site says:
20c 1876-CC NGC MS-66. Superior 05/2003:2433, $253,000.00
$3 1870-S $687,500 1982.
(might possibly be outdated, so would be wise to check the new site)

2ndCharter

You should also break 1 cent down into large and small.

s4ny

1920S Gold Indian $10.

1933 Gold Indian $10

yosclimber

Here's another site which may contain much of the data you seek:
http://coinancials.com/index.html

However, it does not include proofs, so I'm not sure if will have enough.
I was trying to look up the 2c 1864 Small Motto Proof-66 Red, which apparently is:
2c 1864 small motto PCGS Proof 66 Red $74,750 Superior 10/2000

It does have these, though:

1796/5 H10C MS66 PCGS. Sold For: $345,000.00
1880 $4 Coiled Hair. Judd-1660. Pollock-1860. PR66 Cameo NGC. Sold For: $977,500.00

ColonelJessup

1c maybe a recent Chain Cent? Last Strawberry went for maybe $414K a number of years ago - Stacks or maybe ANR
2c proof SM PCGS 65RD last year at 150K or so.
3cS - something Laurie bought at FUN this year.
H10c recent SP67
10c 73-CC from Battle Born $1.8M+juice
20c 76-CC from Rarities Night last week at $480K+juice
25c 1796 25c MS67 reportedly sold in 1989 for $1M+ private sale.
50c Koshkarian 1797 NGC MS66 $840K+ juice (ex:Norweb)
G$1 1849-C open wreath Richmond brought 600K+juice
$2 1/2 1796 NS QE PCGS MS65 past Heritage FUN $1M+
$3 1855-S PR64 - over $1M Heritage last year
$5 1828 $5 PCGS PR64 $1,380,000 Heritage last year

J-1 is a 1c pattern

Jackson medal brought 200K++ in Stacks sale within last 5 years or so

Just off the top of my head. Check these out. It's a start.

roadrunner

TDN may have acquired the Eliasberg 1807 25c for more than 1 MILL. from Stuart. If that 1796 came up for sale again, it would probably go a lot higher.

ColonelJessup

That is a very nice 1807 25c

Colonial coin - Dwight Manley's NE Shilling $400K+ Heritage 2011

lusterlover

<< <i>You should also break 1 cent down into large and small. >>



Agreed, and I think you should take it one step further to add by type - most valuable FE, IH, Lincoln, etc.

LanceNewmanOCC

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tyvm for your assistance

i'll update the op after my din-din later on

gonna add some more stuff to the listing as well, including the suggestions in the thread
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ColonelJessup

Props to MrEureka - 1943-D 1c copper $1.7M

33 $10 MS66 brought $600K is Stacks 6-7 years ago. 20-S $10 MS67 $1,725,000

BattleBorn 73-CC 10c $1.84M all in.

DeliaBug

Here are a few

Colonials
Brasher Doubloon. EB Breast - $2,990,000.00
Brasher Doubloon. EB Wing - $2,415,000.00
Fords MS67 1776 Pewter Dollar - $546,250

Gold
Trompeters PR69 Ultra High Saint - $2,990,000.00
Morse's 27D Saint - $1,897,500
Duckor's 1920-S Eagle - $1,725,000
Browning's Paquet $20 - $1,610,000 (which will be eclipsed by the Norweb coin)

Patterns
Rothschild's Gold Bickford - $1,265,000

Territorials (Don't think I saw these on your list. I would think about excluding ingots. And then Territorial Patterns is a different story.)
1855 $50 Kellogg $747,500
1860 $20 Clark & Gruber $690,000
If the SP-69 $50 from Zabriskie ever sells publicly it's got a spot on the list.


Edit - Just saw CJ had listed Duckor's 20-S.

Edit II - Will there be an error category? I saw hobo nickels made it.

tradedollarnut

<< <i>TDN may have acquired the Eliasberg 1807 25c for more than 1 MILL. from Stuart. If that 1796 came up for sale again, it would probably go a lot higher. >>



$750k IIRC

ColonelJessup

[Browning's Paquet $20 - $1,610,000 (which will be eclipsed by the Norweb coin) >>



Interestingly, both coins were owned by the same individual post-Browning.

The Norweb coin (graded MS67 !!) might be another 8 figure coin today.

Shame Browning's 1933 $20 seems like it will stay off the market (for now)

sniocsu

Under 1 cent (I support the move to break down Large vs. small): http://stacksbowers.com/Auctions/AuctionLot.aspx?LotID=433512 and also a Strawberry Cent auctioned in 2009 by Stack's. Its on Coinfacts, but cannot pull it up on Stack's auction archives. I think it was around 862k. The Cardinal collection also gave us: http://stacksbowers.com/Auctions/AuctionLot.aspx?LotID=433512 at around 881k.
For Colonials (I think this one should be broken up as well...this encompasses true Colonial, postcolonial, etc. issues including proposed coinage(s)): Brasher's Doubloons would need to go here. I have to find the links for them though. I think the EB on breast example has changed hands a few times and those transactions were in the millions range: http://news.yahoo.com/unique-early-american-brasher-doubloon-gold-coin-sold-080415875.html

ColonelJessup

Childs 1804 $1 PR68 brought $4,140,000 to Pogues with Jay Parrino underbidder.

I misreported the 1864 SM 2c PR65RD .. it brought $112,125 March 2012 Baltimore Stacks

yosclimber

I tried to follow up all the great leads given above with some web searches, and filled out the Excel table fairly well (see my original post above).
The Half Cent is still blank, so that needs a little more work....

This link was useful for the Legend transactions:
http://www.legendcoin.com/cgi-bin/inventory/cms.pl?page=Highlights

LanceNewmanOCC

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yos, you've done a good job.

i'm going to leave my format the way it is. the black lettering on white backdrop with the grey background is too hard on my eyes. contrast is too stark in other words

i've no doubt others will find it useful
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TwoSides2aCoin

The sharing of information is beautiful. The more I read, the dumber I feel for all the antics and stupid comments over the years. Feel free to flog me (figuratively), anytime,

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>The sharing of information is beautiful. >>



i concur. As soon as I clear a runway where I can have complete focus, there will be a major update to this thread. It will come sooner than later.

thanks everyone
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roadrunner

Legend's transaction for the unique 1870-s half dime might show up around the $1 MILL or more level. Don't recall what they paid for it. I do recall them
valuing it at something in the $1.4-$2 MILL range.

lusterlover

I believe there was a PR67RB '09VDB that went for $200K a few years back. Legend posted the price as they brokered the transaction. I believe this would be the highest proof Lincoln to date.

yosclimber

I updated the Excel version to include what I believe is the record Half Cent price:
1796 C-1 no pole, PCGS MS67 RB, ex-Eliasberg, which sold for $506,000, Stack's/Bowers, 1996.

The 1796 RB which was recently found sold for $358,000 on January 22:
http://www.coinworld.com/Articles/ViewArticle/1796-liberty-cap-with-pole-half-cent-realizes

P.S. Another link which has many of the record prices is:
http://coins.ha.com/Heritage-Auctions-hall-of-fame-best-prices-realized.s

renomedphys

For Flying Eagle Cent Proof, the lone PR67 1856 I believe sold for $150K. Guide has it at $95K. All things considered, that would be a bargain.
Also, there are PR66CAM pop 1/0 coins for the 1857, 1858 SL, and 1858 LL dates. Any of these should be worth at least $100K, regardless of what Guide says.

For Indian Cent Proof, I believe the Pogues own an NGC 65RD 1864-L. Probably a $200K - $300K coin
Other 1864-L proofs probably round out the entire list for this denomination.

For Lincoln Cent Proof, the 1909 VDB PR67+RB in the McCullagh collection sold in 2011 for $225K.
The Blay VDB in 67RD hasn't sold, but would likely give the above a run for its money.
And there is actually another in that grade.
And when, 2008? A 1914 PR68RD sold for $110K
I think in 2010 Stewart Blay sold his PR67RB 1916 for $75K via private treaty. Don't know if that makes the list.

ColonelJessup

<< <i>Here are a few

Colonials
Brasher Doubloon. EB Breast - $2,990,000.00
Brasher Doubloon. EB Wing - $2,415,000.00
Fords MS67 1776 Pewter Dollar - $546,250

Gold
Trompeters PR69 Ultra High Saint - $2,990,000.00
Morse's 27D Saint - $1,897,500
Duckor's 1920-S Eagle - $1,725,000
Browning's Paquet $20 - $1,610,000 (which will be eclipsed by the Norweb coin)

Patterns
Rothschild's Gold Bickford - $1,265,000

Territorials (Don't think I saw these on your list. I would think about excluding ingots. And then Territorial Patterns is a different story.)
1855 $50 Kellogg $747,500
1860 $20 Clark & Gruber $690,000
If the SP-69 $50 from Zabriskie ever sells publicly it's got a spot on the list.


Edit - Just saw CJ had listed Duckor's 20-S.

Edit II - Will there be an error category? I saw hobo nickels made it. >>



Excellent additions

And:
$10 Cardinal Spellman 1838 $10 PR65 $2.5M (used to be mine - sigh)
$10 Pittman 1838 $10 PR65 $2.1M
$10 1907 Indian Satin PR62(?) Heritage within past 2 years over $1M

There's a Clark, Gruber $10 SP65 that brought over $750K to Kagin in an auction (Bowers?ANR?) in the past 10 years.

yosclimber

With background color hopefully friendlier to Lance's vision.



<< <i>$10 Cardinal Spellman 1838 $10 PR65 $2.5M (used to be mine - sigh)
$10 Pittman 1838 $10 PR65 $2.1M >>



Cool - I added the Cardinal Spellman.
I haven't been using the full set of types that Lance outlined - trying to work with a single screen shot on my small screen laptop.



<< <i>$10 1907 Indian Satin PR62(?) Heritage within past 2 years over $1M >>


$2.185M - I added this from the Heritage "Hall of Fame" a few days ago.

The other change I made in this version was to use the 1793 Chain cent S-1 AMERI. SP65 ex-Mickley, which Greg Reynolds said TDN bought for $2m.
I suppose it was part of a group of coins, so the individual value may not be easily separated, but given that he later refused a $2.5m offer for it,
it seems worthy of displacing the 1793 S-4 which auctioned for $1.38m.

yosclimber

The table above was updated for the $7.4m Brasher doubloon mentioned in the "Next $10m coin?" thread.
http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=880418

I also added a second sheet to the XLS version which lists some of the $10m candidates, i.e. coins which are finest known but do not hold the price records at present.
http://www.stanford.edu/%7Eclint/cp/US_max_prices_short.xls

yosclimber

The table above was updated to add the 1894-S Barber dime which sold for $1.9m to John Albanese in 2007 (this price surpasses the 1873-CC No Arrows).
It was mentioned in a very nice listing of provenances for the 10 known specimens:
http://www.davidlawrence.com/content.cfm/page/1894-S-Dime-Pedigree

yosclimber

The table above was updated to add the 1796 quarter from the Newman collection which recently sold for $1,527,500 .

LanceNewmanOCC

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i'm glad you are doing updates for this one as i lost interest due to the amount of effort to keep it updated.
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yosclimber

The table above was considerably expanded - it has 98 entries now, encompassing most of the Red book major types.
This should bring it closer to Lance's original conception, although it does not have the MS/Proof entries maintained separately.
The types included could be debated and are admittedly arbitrarily chosen.
The main source for the update was the truly excellent PCGS Auction Prices website.

Having all these entries means it will likely be quickly outdated, but that's OK.
I'm willing to update it occasionally. So please post corrections or suggestions on this thread.

There are some amazing high grade type coins out there! I wonder how many will hit the market in the Gardner and Pogue series of auctions?

[edit:] updated again, to correct 3c nickel record, and update Sac/Wash mule private sale in 2007/08. Thanks, Lance!

yosclimber

The most valuable type coins are sometimes not unique, but part of a small group which is well known,
such as the 1913 Liberty Nickel, 1894-S dime, and 1804 dollar.
So I thought it might be fun to make a pedigree graph, showing the prices of each example over time.
It might show the price record being held by different examples over time, depending on which was available.

dbldie55

For Liberty Head nickels (excluding the 1913) I have the following top 10 from my database of auction results for the last 14 years

$74,750.00 1885 MS67 PCGS 2006-03-15 The New York Connoisseur's Collection by American Numismatic Rarities
$41,400.00 1885 MS66 PCGS 2008-09-13 Beverly Hills Rarities Sale by Bowers & Merena
$37,375.00 1912S MS66 PCGS 2012-01-06 FUN Signature Sale by Heritage
$38,187.50 1899 MS67+ PCGS 2012-11-16 Baltimore Auction by Stacks - Bowers
$34,500.00 1883WC MS67 PCGS 2006-03-15 The New York Connoisseur's Collection by American Numismatic Rarities
$30,550.00 1912S MS66 PCGS 2014-02-06 The Americana Sale by Stacks - Bowers
$29,375.00 1902R02 MS67+ PCGS 2012-06-29 The June Baltimore by Stacks - Bowers
$29,375.00 1905 PR68 PCGS 2012-06-29 The June Baltimore by Stacks - Bowers
$29,325.00 1886 MS66 PCGS 2010-02-05 Long Beach Signature Sale by Heritage
$28,200.00 1901R02 MS67 PCGS 2013-08-16 Chicago ANA Auction by Stacks - Bower

yosclimber

Thanks for the more mainstream Liberty Nickel results.
I was able to see all of these in the PCGS Auction Prices Realized database, although sometimes apparently without the commission included.
http://www.pcgs.com/auctionprices/category.aspx?c=82
(Plus a few which might tie with your 10th).

I also found one in the PCGS database which looks like it should fit into your top 10.
Jul-2008 $45,000 NG0 PCGS Stack's The Samuel Berngard and S.S. New York Collections lot 1267 (on index page)
Stack's - The Samuel Berngard and S.S. New York Collections Lot #1267 1885 5C MS-66 (PCGS) Price Realized: $51,750.00 (on linked Stack's page)
The database entry on your site shows this lot as not sold.
Is that correct?
(The Stack's archive results have missing pieces, so they do not inspire confidence).

yosclimber

Updated to add (classic) commemoratives - thanks to Lance for the suggestion.
This also adds the $50 denomination.