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Buffalo Nickel Two Feathers sold for $3,290 !

I was surprised by the price obtained for the 1917-S Buffalo Nickel Two Feathers Variety XF45. (pcgs # 38443.45). It sold for $3,290 including BP , Heritage Auction 1177, lot # 8016.
There is growing interest in this variety, I didnt' realize how much money the finer grades would fetch at auction!

Any other Two Feather Variety collectors have thoughts or opinions on this ?

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  • CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭
    Auctions can be amazing

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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Auctions can be amazing >>




    and clueless.

    That was an amazing price.
    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That was a truly extraordinary price for the variety.
  • OnWithTheHuntOnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That was a truly extraordinary price for the variety. >>



    I agree. If I thought I could get that much for mine, most of them would be long gone.
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All three Mints for the 1917 are known with a 2 feather variety. Actually, the 1917-S is the LEAST scarce of the three Mints. That's not to say that the P or D Mint in comparable condition would normally bring anything close to three grand. Has to be the "Top Pop" thing with that '17-S.
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Or is that "Pop Top?"
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Has to be the "Top Pop" thing with that '17-S. >>


    highest graded in an attributed holder at pcgs
    .

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  • << <i>I was surprised by the price obtained for the 1917-S Buffalo Nickel Two Feathers Variety XF45. (pcgs # 38443.45). It sold for $3,290 including BP , Heritage Auction 1177, lot # 8016.
    There is growing interest in this variety, I didnt' realize how much money the finer grades would fetch at auction!

    Any other Two Feather Variety collectors have thoughts or opinions on this ? >>


    Pardon my stupidity but what is a "two feather" variety? All the Buffalo nickels I've ever seen the Indian has two feathers.
  • I was tracking this and planned on bidding during the live event, but didn't since the price had already skyrocketed. Accodring to the population report there is one coin in XF45 with none finer and there are a total of 13 certified in all grades. So that would make the certified population of the 1917-S 2F substantially less than the 1916 DDO, 1918/7-D, and 1937-D 3 Legs. That is also the case with all of the other 2F dates. So are these two feather varieties truly rarer than the more famous types? Or are there many out there that just aren't attributed yet?

  • OnWithTheHuntOnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>

    Pardon my stupidity but what is a "two feather" variety? All the Buffalo nickels I've ever seen the Indian has two feathers. >>



    This is one. Note the lack of the short feather directly behind the Indian's neck. That would be the third feather.

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> >>

    Pardon my stupidity but what is a "two feather" variety? All the Buffalo nickels I've ever seen the Indian has two feathers. >>



    This is one. Note the lack of the short feather directly behind the Indian's neck. That would be the third feather. >>



    looks like i learned my factoid for the day.

    this missing feather doesn't appear to be abraded as the others are claimed to be

    it appears to have been clashed by the buffalo's shoulder/neck!

    or maybe it is abraded and then just clashed in the same spot.
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  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd better start checking my Buff's.......
    I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector.
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  • I have an unattributed 1919 PCGS64 back to the service for a two-feather attribution.

    Garrow
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess I have to reexamine my prices! image

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  • << <i>I have an unattributed 1919 PCGS64 back to the service for a two-feather attribution.

    Garrow >>



    That will become the new top pop coin. Congrats! Currently AU58 is top pop. I guess this illustrates the risk of paying a lot for a top pop coin in this variety. Someone can always make a new one higher than the old one.
  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Picked up a 13-d today at one o my local B&M shops....
    A nice XF example... A minor cherry pick as it was priced without consideration of this variety.
    A nice addition to my collectionimage

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was tracking this and planned on bidding during the live event, but didn't since the price had already skyrocketed. Accodring to the population report there is one coin in XF45 with none finer and there are a total of 13 certified in all grades. So that would make the certified population of the 1917-S 2F substantially less than the 1916 DDO, 1918/7-D, and 1937-D 3 Legs. That is also the case with all of the other 2F dates. So are these two feather varieties truly rarer than the more famous types? Or are there many out there that just aren't attributed yet? >>



    Several dates are only moderately scarce-1916, 1918-S, 1921, 1925-S. Others are quite rare-1913-s Var 1, 1915, 1915-D, 1923-there are several others besides these. The vast majority of this type of error have not been slabbed.
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the education, OnWithTheHunt and LanceNewmanOCC.
    I checked all mine in the Whitman blue folder - all 3Fs.
    The closest one was a 1928-S where the 3rd feather is weak - about half of it is visible.
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ah heck, i guess i'll go ahead am make some mock-ups

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