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Opinions needed on this large size quarter.

Will it grade.
What's the grade.
What would be a fair price to pay.


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  • Looks fine, but that indirect lighting makes judging a potential cleaning impossible. I don't have a problem with a F-12 and think the downside would be VG-10.
    Specialist in Lincoln Cents, Toned Type, and Slab enthusiast.
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm in the VG-8 opinion and agree it's impossible to tell if the coin will be dubbed cleaned from that pic!
  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • << <i>I'm in the VG-8 opinion and agree it's impossible to tell if the coin will be dubbed cleaned from that pic! >>



    It has not been cleaned. The pic makes it worse than it is.

    What would be a fair price to offer.
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  • I unfortunately think the O.P is trying to build up his post count more than actually adding to this forum. I wonder why the forum operators have not spoken to him yet!
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Is that from Monarch Coins?
  • I would go VG8 and price it out around $130-$150. If problem Free.
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  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭
    Cleaned.....gennie holder. Do some homework and tell US what YOU think it will grade.

    Here we go again....someone else that can't grade, but wants to be told what something grades so they can feel like they know how to grade when 'a friends collection over the years' coins are being ripped, er, bought. If you bought that one as problem free, looks like you'll lose your pants this time if you plan to flip it (to go with your lost shirt).

    Still won't answer Mitch's/Wondercoin's question, huh?
    I'll come up with something.
  • The photos make it look "brighter" then it really is. It might of been cleaned, but it's an old cleaning. I still think it should grade problem free.
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  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm in the VG-8 opinion and agree it's impossible to tell if the coin will be dubbed cleaned from that pic! >>



    It has not been cleaned. The pic makes it worse than it is.

    What would be a fair price to offer. >>



    A fair price is a price YOU come up with, through learning. Learn more, because if you need to ask that question, you should probably read and listen alot more, post alot less, and not try to be someone or something you aren't....just being plain lazy if you have to ask what to offer. You knew what to offer for the HTT you lost your shirt on, why can't you figure this one out, or do you need to be told if it's cleaned or not?
    I'll come up with something.
  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭
    Has the OP learned how to tone coins, as he asked in this thread (with an emphasis on #2), from the site he was suspended from? Another coin doctor in the making. He's allowed back there, so hopefully.....
    I'll come up with something.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A bright 193 year old not cleaned coin does not compute.
  • As said before, it's much darker in hand. If it's cleaned, it's an old one.
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  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A bright 193 year old not cleaned coin does not compute. >>



    Took the words out of my mouth.


    VG10

    Here is what to look for in a F12. Sorry for the crappy pics

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    Derek

    EAC 6024
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks cleaned, perhaps not recently but cleaning has been going on for a long, long time.



    All glory is fleeting.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As said before, it's much darker in hand. If it's cleaned, it's an old one. >>


    Have you ever seen a recent cleaning? It's always an old one. LOL.
    Lance.
  • sniocsusniocsu Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>As said before, it's much darker in hand. If it's cleaned, it's an old one. >>


    Have you ever seen a recent cleaning? It's always an old one. LOL.
    Lance. >>



    I have seen several. They are not pretty...
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Although certainly with issue, I like this one a bit better:
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    Enough so I just purchased it.

    peacockcoins

  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you think it will grade problem-free, then why are you ask us for our opinion? Whip out the dollars and get it graded yourself. You keep wanting free advice to become some sort of a dealer, but you really need to invest your money wisely and learn first.

    You keep asking us for help. I offered you some help via PM, but you have ignored my PM to you. Not even so much as a thank you note from you.

    You are certainly a real winner.






  • << <i>If you think it will grade problem-free, then why are you ask us for our opinion? Whip out the dollars and get it graded yourself. You keep wanting free advice to become some sort of a dealer, but you really need to invest your money wisely and learn first.

    You keep asking us for help. I offered you some help via PM, but you have ignored my PM to you. Not even so much as a thank you note from you.

    You are certainly a real winner. >>



    Thanks...and for the record, bag marks ARE damage.

    Here is a PCGS slabbed morgan dollar. Graded UNC Details- Surface Damage. The damage is from heavy bag marks.
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    Now while a few bag marks won't hurt anything, send in a Morgan with a ton of deep bag marks, and it will come back body bagged.
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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice quarter detecto, you should submit it in to pcgs for slabbing. after you buy it, but before you sell it.
  • "I still think it should grade problem free."

    If you can work that out, you can make an offer estimate.

    Eric
  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Now while a few bag marks won't hurt anything, send in a Morgan with a ton of deep bag marks, and it will come back body bagged. >>



    Again, you are incorrect. A "ton of bag marks", as you call it, will not come back in a body bag. It might come back in an MS60 holder. The slab you show is for some reason (e.g. surface damage) other than excessive bag marks. Again, a coin with excessive bag marks will grade at the very minimal end of MS (if it is UNC).

    Don't forget, invest in books, coin facts, or some other educational material, because you certainly need it.












  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    Don't forget, invest in books, coin facts, or some other educational material, because you certainly need it. >>



    Now Rampage - word for the wise - don't put your paw on your bum whilst you wait for that to happen. The "boy" is a known quantity, he is a veritable KIA.
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  • hammer1hammer1 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Now Rampage - word for the wise - don't put your paw on your bum whilst you wait for that to happen. The "boy" is a known quantity, he is a veritable KIA. >>



    SaorAlba- You are the one stalking his every post, while he just ignores you. Really, really creepy of you.
  • So - did you buy it?

    merse

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This could turn into a soap opera......"As the knife turns"!imageimage

  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This could turn into a soap opera......"As the knife turns"!imageimage >>



    More like another episode of "As the stomach turns!"

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Now Rampage - word for the wise - don't put your paw on your bum whilst you wait for that to happen. The "boy" is a known quantity, he is a veritable KIA. >>



    SaorAlba- You are the one stalking his every post, while he just ignores you. Really, really creepy of you. >>

    She was just letting the cat out of the bag.image


    Hoard the keys.
  • hammer1hammer1 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Now Rampage - word for the wise - don't put your paw on your bum whilst you wait for that to happen. The "boy" is a known quantity, he is a veritable KIA. >>



    SaorAlba- You are the one stalking his every post, while he just ignores you. Really, really creepy of you. >>

    She was just letting the cat out of the bag.image >>



    She needs to pull up her big girl panties and give the lad a chance.

    SMotis is much wiser than the mods at CT. If he flubs it here, OP will be gone in a heartbeat
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭

    Will it grade. --> Not at PCGS, IMO.
    What's the grade --> VG details, cleaned, net G.
    What would be a fair price to pay -> About $75, IMO.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks...and for the record, bag marks ARE damage.

    ...

    Now while a few bag marks won't hurt anything, send in a Morgan with a ton of deep bag marks, and it will come back body bagged. >>



    Really? You sound very sure of yourself.

    Pray tell, how many Morgans have you sent in for grading?

    Just curious....Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • daOnlyBGdaOnlyBG Posts: 1,060 ✭✭


    << <i>The photos make it look "brighter" then it really is. It might of been cleaned, but it's an old cleaning. I still think it should grade problem free. >>


    If I, still a "beginner" to coin collecting, could tell that this one's been cleaned at some point in its history, it's not problem-free. You know how some coins with undergraded holders (i.e., an MS-63 coin in an MS-60 holder) tend to fetch the MS-63 premiums? The opposite is true. Even if PCGS/NGC/ANACS/whatever company did slab it, and by the miniscule chance you got it slabbed "problem free," I don't know if any serious collector would pay that premium for it.

    Instead of paying to have it slabbed, perhaps you should pay for a guide on counterfeits, altered coins, cleaned coins, etc. Or, for free, you can just check out these sources at your library. No offense, I feel rather weird telling this to someone who's racked up 3200 posts on another forum. image


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  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does the OP have a 3-legged Buffalo in his collection to show?

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