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Should PCGS reholder this no charge?

UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
Just got a submission back from our host with a very nice early Franklin PR66, and a not so nice hair. Would this be acceptable to you?

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  • uofa1285uofa1285 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    ewww...no.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    No.

    That hair has organic contaminents on it which will discolor the coin after many years.
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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    Yes, and they will if you ask them to.

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    'Yes' to your first question and 'no' to your second question.
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  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's not a mustache hair...

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  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It happens...
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe they should only hire baldies!image
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes to the subject question. No to the OP question.
    Lance.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No "I love hair in my slabs!" replies yet??

    Patience.
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Send it in for a "Blow Off."
    Include it with another sub you should get it back postage paid and no charge for the ... er, for the service. image

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  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    They are telling you it was an 'eyelash' away from a PR-67
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unacceptable, and they'll fix it. Call Monday for instructions.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,885 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe it's one of HRH's. Too bad there isn't a way to DNA test it, for the pedigree.

    PS- LOL@ both Swampboy and WoodenJefferson's replies. image

    Srsly, tho', I'm sure they'll make it good. Send it back and maybe it will come with a platinum blonde one next time.

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  • I have found out that PCGS contracts out/hires people to do the slabbing. The slabbing is done way after your coins are graded.
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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's not a mustache hair...

    image >>



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  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not acceptable. Strange because less than 3 weeks ago my order came back with a small piece of blue plastic encased in with the coin. Maybe they need to do some better housekeeping - what's next to be slabbed with your coins, cracker crumbs and cheeze wiz?

    By the way, they told me I could send it back as a mechanical error and they would pay for shipping but I don't like waiting for my coins in the mail and I was afraid of the mail thief they were having problems with in I think it was Anaheim.
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  • To hair is human. image

    They should reholder.
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,848 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have found out that PCGS contracts out/hires people to do the slabbing. The slabbing is done way after your coins are graded. >>



    Where did you hear this? I can't believe PCGS doesn't do the slabbing in-house using PCGS employees due to security and quality control issues.

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Depending on who's hair , it could bring a premium at auction. How good of a story can you tell on eBay ?
    image .... just a funny thought.
  • I bet you could have got the answer you were looking for from PCGS directly in less time than it took you to write the post. I have never heard of PCGS refusing a reasonable request form a collector.


  • << <i>I have found out that PCGS contracts out/hires people to do the slabbing. The slabbing is done way after your coins are graded. >>



    That is not an accurate statement > See this
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sell it on eBay with the HRH pedigree Hall's Real Hair.image
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks Blonde to me.
  • I think they would. Do they still do "Spot Review" service.
  • s4nys4ny Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭
    I would have the same policy for a slab as I would for soup. Send it back, should be free.
    Maybe they will spit in it the next time.
  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You should have asked PCGS before posting on the board.

    Things happen and its how they handle those errors that set them apart from others.

    Now on the lighter side maybe they can conserve the hair at No charge
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I have found out that PCGS contracts out/hires people to do the slabbing. The slabbing is done way after your coins are graded. >>



    Where did you hear this? I can't believe PCGS doesn't do the slabbing in-house using PCGS employees due to security and quality control issues. >>


    I'm not sure it was meant that way, Perry. I think he was just saying it is not done by graders the moment a decision has been made. Nothing new.
    Lance.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,848 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I have found out that PCGS contracts out/hires people to do the slabbing. The slabbing is done way after your coins are graded. >>



    Where did you hear this? I can't believe PCGS doesn't do the slabbing in-house using PCGS employees due to security and quality control issues. >>


    I'm not sure it was meant that way, Perry. I think he was just saying it is not done by graders the moment a decision has been made. Nothing new.
    Lance. >>



    I'm not a mind reader so I can only comment on what was actually said. What does "contracts out" mean other than an outside company doing this function? Obviously, the graders don't operate the sonic slab sealer or print out the labels.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    not suggesting full cleanroom garb, but one would expect the operators of the coin encapsulation equipment wear safety glasses, hairnet, mask, gloves, and labcoat

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  • exact same thing happend to me (hair in a Silver Eagle slab though). they will want you to send them scans of both sides, and then after they see it, they will reholder for free, and pay for your shipping.

    PCGS = best customer service I've ever encountered . . .

    the worst: here's one for you - we have closets in a 5 year old house we just bought. I called the company that installed them, asking to purchase more shelves. They asked for my phone # and I told them we were not the original owners, so the phone number wouldn't help. They said they couldn't help us if we were not the original owners. "What, you don't want my business or money?" unbelieveable . . .
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There may be some collectors who will pay a premium for "hair in the holder" errors. image
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...someone was out of uniform....

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    ...image
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have no doubt that PCGS will reholder this coin. Will PCGS pay for insured shipping both ways?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>not suggesting full cleanroom garb, but one would expect the operators of the coin encapsulation equipment wear safety glasses, hairnet, mask, gloves, and labcoat >>




    I was going to make a similar observation, though the labcoat may be optional. I've been in similar manufacturing environments and been required to wear all of the above, plus a "beard net" over my van dyke.


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  • EdscoinEdscoin Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭


    << <i>not suggesting full cleanroom garb, but one would expect the operators of the coin encapsulation equipment wear safety glasses, hairnet, mask, gloves, and labcoat >>



    Maybe just a sign in the restroom- All employs must wash hands before returning to work. image
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  • Sorry for the misunderstanding.

    I did mean to say, that the graders do not seal the slabs, they have a separate team of people doing it.

    Here is another question.

    Looking at the fees, the reholder service is for coins up to $20,000. So what do they do for slabs worth more than that?

    I have suggested to PCGS, that they use Gorilla Glass for slabs that house expensive coins. Gorilla Glass is a very tough glass that is used in smart phones, tablets, and other devices.

    They should make a "premium slab", for more expensive coins.
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