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Imagine an order like this today

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What if you melted all the gold you had into a working toilet seat?

    Would the government take your John Crapper?
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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I fully expect to see an "Executive Order" of similar magnitude within the next week or two. Different subject. Guess which one........
  • goldbuffalogoldbuffalo Posts: 641 ✭✭✭
    Well, I think the Mint would have to stop selling Gold first.

  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image

    Imagine an order like this today >>



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  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    has there ever been an executive order that benefitted the U.S. citizens ?
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>has there ever been an executive order that benefitted the U.S. citizens ? >>



    Not likely. MJ
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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Emancipation Proclamation..... feel free to quibble.

    I didn't double-check this because I'm preoccupied with finding a gun show where I can buy a Stinger missile without filling out any paperwork. Posse Comitatus anyone?
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • jmbjmb Posts: 594 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Emancipation Proclamation..... feel free to quibble.

    I didn't double-check this because I'm preoccupied with finding a gun show where I can buy a Stinger missile without filling out any paperwork. Posse Comitatus anyone? >>



    Not quibbling, but it was the 13th Amendment, not the Emancipation Proclamation.

    Also, I don't know of any RATIONAL individual who would run for elected office on your above Stinger missile comment.
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Emancipation Proclamation..... feel free to quibble.

    I didn't double-check this because I'm preoccupied with finding a gun show where I can buy a Stinger missile without filling out any paperwork. Posse Comitatus anyone? >>



    Not quibbling, but it was the 13th Amendment, not the Emancipation Proclamation.

    Also, I don't know of any RATIONAL individual who would run for elected office on your above Stinger missile comment. >>



    Quibbling back, the point to which I was responding had to do with "an executive order that benefited the US citizens". Spelling correction mine. While I am unclear as to whether or not the EP would even technically qualify as an executive order, I was attempting to make the point that some things the Executive Branch does in what might, by some, be considered a peremptory, even unconstitutional manner, might yet, in reality, have a positive effect upon US citizens.

    As far as my Stinger missile comment goes, what's left? They've taken away my right to construct a suitcase nuke or biochemical warfare agent. It's a slippery slope, and we're already ......

    Edited to add: Perhaps someone could google the phrase reductio ad absurdumimage
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell


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    << <i>Emancipation Proclamation..... feel free to quibble.

    I didn't double-check this because I'm preoccupied with finding a gun show where I can buy a Stinger missile without filling out any paperwork. Posse Comitatus anyone? >>



    Not quibbling, but it was the 13th Amendment, not the Emancipation Proclamation.

    Also, I don't know of any RATIONAL individual who would run for elected office on your above Stinger missile comment. >>



    Quibbling back, the point to which I was responding had to do with "an executive order that benefited the US citizens". Spelling correction mine. While I am unclear as to whether or not the EP would even technically qualify as an executive order, I was attempting to make the point that some things the Executive Branch does in what might, by some, be considered a peremptory, even unconstitutional manner, might yet, in reality, have a positive effect upon US citizens.

    As far as my Stinger missile comment goes, what's left? They've taken away my right to construct a suitcase nuke or biochemical warfare agent. It's a slippery slope, and we're already ...... >>



    Not to nit-pic, but the Emancipation Proclaimation did no such thing. It only "emancipated" the slaves in the rebellion states, who viewed themselves as no longer being states within the United States.

    Your other comments regarding rights to owning nukes and bio weapons are completely inane.
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does my mischaracterization of the EP invalidate my point about possible benefit from "governmental intervention" ?

    BTW, this is a rhetorical question. I look forward to your responseimage
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does not say world gold coins and I would argue that the US Government does not have the authority to collect coins minted by other countries

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  • << <i>Does my mischaracterization of the EP invalidate my point about possible benefit from "governmental intervention" ?

    BTW, this is a rhetorical question. I look forward to your responseimage >>



    Well, let's see...
    It would seem comparable to the president of the US issuing a law that only affected the citizens of a foreign country. So yeah, I would say that that would "invalidate" your point regarding the costs/benefits of the use of executive order.


  • << <i>Does not say world gold coins and I would argue that the US Government does not have the authority to collect coins minted by other countries >>



    Another good reason to stack Canadian and Aussie bullion.
  • DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Does my mischaracterization of the EP invalidate my point about possible benefit from "governmental intervention" ?

    BTW, this is a rhetorical question. I look forward to your responseimage >>



    Well, let's see...
    It would seem comparable to the president of the US issuing a law that only affected the citizens of a foreign country. So yeah, I would say that that would "invalidate" your point regarding the costs/benefits of the use of executive order. >>



    I hate to join the fray, but it depends on your perspective. The North generally still viewed them as citizens of the United States, while the South generally did not. I think CJ's larger point of a beneficial executive order is till generally valid though debates can be had about who exactly it benefits, was it technically an executive order, etc.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,291 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Does my mischaracterization of the EP invalidate my point about possible benefit from "governmental intervention" ?

    BTW, this is a rhetorical question. I look forward to your responseimage >>



    Were the slaves that benefited from the Emancipation Proclamation considered US citizens? If not, then ebaybuyer's statement is still valid.

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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Does my mischaracterization of the EP invalidate my point about possible benefit from "governmental intervention" ?

    BTW, this is a rhetorical question. I look forward to your responseimage >>



    Well, let's see...
    It would seem comparable to the president of the US issuing a law that only affected the citizens of a foreign country. So yeah, I would say that that would "invalidate" your point regarding the costs/benefits of the use of executive order. >>



    Check out the phrase "rhetorical question"image
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
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    << <i>Does my mischaracterization of the EP invalidate my point about possible benefit from "governmental intervention" ?

    BTW, this is a rhetorical question. I look forward to your responseimage >>



    Well, let's see...
    It would seem comparable to the president of the US issuing a law that only affected the citizens of a foreign country. So yeah, I would say that that would "invalidate" your point regarding the costs/benefits of the use of executive order. >>



    Check out the phrase "rhetorical question"image >>



    Yes, and I think you do not understand the meaning of "rhetorical" since you followed with "I look forward to your response."
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't agree with most of RWB's comments. I'll let it go at that.
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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>Does my mischaracterization of the EP invalidate my point about possible benefit from "governmental intervention" ?

    BTW, this is a rhetorical question. I look forward to your responseimage >>



    Well, let's see...
    It would seem comparable to the president of the US issuing a law that only affected the citizens of a foreign country. So yeah, I would say that that would "invalidate" your point regarding the costs/benefits of the use of executive order. >>



    Check out the phrase "rhetorical question"image >>



    Yes, and I think you do not understand the meaning of "rhetorical" since you followed with "I look forward to your response." >>



    Oh, I know what it means. That's why your response is so amusing. image
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell


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    << <i>

    << <i>Does my mischaracterization of the EP invalidate my point about possible benefit from "governmental intervention" ?

    BTW, this is a rhetorical question. I look forward to your responseimage >>



    Well, let's see...
    It would seem comparable to the president of the US issuing a law that only affected the citizens of a foreign country. So yeah, I would say that that would "invalidate" your point regarding the costs/benefits of the use of executive order. >>



    Check out the phrase "rhetorical question"image >>



    Yes, and I think you do not understand the meaning of "rhetorical" since you followed with "I look forward to your response." >>



    Oh, I know what it means. That's why your response is so amusing. image >>



    Oh, I know what it means. That's why your response is so amusing. image >>



    Kindly let me in on your amusement because I'm very confused. Were you really posing a rhetorical question or were you really looking forward to my response? It can't be both because they are two exclusive things. So please, let me know what you found so amusing? (insert really cool emoticon because it's really awesome, or something)
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image It was a trap:imageimage
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • ok. what exactly was the trap? (more really cool emoticons because I can't seem to keep up with your non sequiturs)
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't, I just can't, I just can't go on.... The more a joke is explained, the less funny it becomes.image
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell


  • << <i>I can't, I just can't, I just can't go on.... The more a joke is explained, the less funny it becomes.image >>



    You haven't explained a single thing. All of your messages have been non sequiturs.
    Let me know when you figure something out and are able to rationally communicate it.
    Truly Yours.
  • How does ColonelJessup go on? He has violated rules 1-10.
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is there a rule 11?
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>has there ever been an executive order that benefitted the U.S. citizens ? >>


    Here's one us old farts benefitted from:

    Executive Order 11074
    Establishing the President's Council on Physical Fitness
    Signed: January 8, 1963
    Federal Register page and date: 28 FR 259; January 10, 1963
    Amends: EO 10830, July 24, 1959
    Revokes: EO 10673, July 16, 1956; EO 10772, June 30, 1958; EO 10931, March 29, 1961
    Revoked by: EO 11398, March 4, 1968

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  • CazkaboomCazkaboom Posts: 289 ✭✭✭
    The nice thing about the executive order was that coins with noted collector value were exempt in Executive Order 6102. It states in Section 2 Subsection B, which are the exemptions, "gold coins having recognized special value to collectors of rare and unusual coins." Meaning coins that did have a value above face were totally exempt from this law. Sadly, I assume many upon many non-collectors didn't take time to look their coins up therefore giving up a bunch of gold coin that would be considered "collectible".
  • s4nys4ny Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The nice thing about the executive order was that coins with noted collector value were exempt in Executive Order 6102. It states in Section 2 Subsection B, which are the exemptions, "gold coins having recognized special value to collectors of rare and unusual coins." Meaning coins that did have a value above face were totally exempt from this law. Sadly, I assume many upon many non-collectors didn't take time to look their coins up therefore giving up a bunch of gold coin that would be considered "collectible". >>



    I wonder how many gold coins were actually turned in? I believe that everyone was able to keep 5 coins in addition to the coins with collector value. Did the public have a lot of gold coins?
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