2013 Pro Football Hall oF Fame Congrats!

AkbarClone

Welcome to the newest class of Football Hall of Famers!

Larry Allen
Cris Carter
Charles Haley
Bill Parcels
Art Modell

Way to Go!





OK, this is not the final list--they are still part of the 15 finalists, but they are my personal "biased" choices for various reasons based on my preferences as a fan of the NFL.

Post your list of 4-5 favorites among the 15 finalists.

Here's the list of finalists:

Warren Sapp (DL)
Michael Strahan (DL)
Jonathan Ogden (OL)
Larry Allen (OL)
Tim Brown (WR)
Cris Carter (WR)
Andre Reed (WR)
Jerome Bettis (RB)
Wil Shields (OL)
Bill Parcells (Coach)
Kevin Greene (LB)
Charles Haley (DE/LB)
Dave Robinson (LB)
Curley Culp (DT)
Aeneas Williams (CB/S)
Edward DeBartolo, Jr. (Owner)
Art Modell (Owner)

lightningboy

Charles Haley - key defensive member of 5 Super Bowl Champions - Has any other player(starter) ever won 5?
Cris Carter
Michael Strahan
Tim Brown
Larry Allen - key blocker for one of the most perennially, prolific rushing attacks in many years

Ahmanfan

If Jonathan Ogden isn't a first ballot hall of famer, then I dunno who is.
John

gotsparks09

Larry Allen (OL)
Cris Carter (WR)
Andre Reed (WR)
Bill Parcells (Coach)
Charles Haley (DE/LB)
Art Modell (Owner)

firstbase23

Edward DeBartolo Jr
Charles Haley
Larry Allen
Cris Carter
Aeneas Williams

Ahmanfan

So Ogden goes to 11 straight pro bowls, best player of the decade at his position, and nobody thinks hes a hofer?

larryallen73

As a UCLA Bruin fan I like Ogden but I like Larry Allen better. Maybe two OL's get in this go-round!?

jeffcbay

Why would Cris Carter be inducted into the Hall of Fame? I mean, all he does is catch touchdown passes!

onlyanumber

<< <i>So Ogden goes to 11 straight pro bowls, best player of the decade at his position, and nobody thinks hes a hofer? >>



Yeah, I'm surprised by this too...

My list:

Michael Strahan
Bill Parcells
Art Modell
Jonathan Ogden
Jerome Bettis

Realistically, I can't see two OL getting inducted in any year, so my guess is one makes it this year and one next year.

AkbarClone

Larry Allen and Jonathan Ogden seem pretty similar in achievements as far as Offensive Linemen. I went with with Allen as a personal preference, but think Ogden is as good. I don't see where anyone could proclaim Ogden to be superior to Allen and vice versa.

Ogden went to 11 straight Pro Bowls
Allen went to 11 out of 12 straight Pro Bowls (not voted to 2002 Pro Bowl because he had a season-ending injury in Game 5). I would be willing to bet he would have been in 12 straight if not for the injury shortened season.

Allen was First Team All-Pro 6 years
Ogden was First Team All-Pro 4 years

Both were on Super Bowl winning teams:
Allen 1995 Cowboys
Ogden 2000 Ravens

Allen started 197 games in 14 years
Ogden started 176 games in 12 years

I don't see anything that shows one lineman superior to the other, both should/will be in the HOF at some point--but I, too, believed they would likely only add one lineman this year, and I think a "slight" edge goes to Larry Allen. I would be totally fine if both got in this year.


Do the Ogden supporters have any strong arguments/discussion why Ogden is superior to Allen, or is it just a personal preference as well between two worthy players?

larryallen73

<< <i>Larry Allen and Jonathan Ogden seem pretty similar in achievements as far as Offensive Linemen. I went with with Allen as a personal preference, but think Ogden is as good. I don't see where anyone could proclaim Ogden to be superior to Allen and vice versa.

Ogden went to 11 straight Pro Bowls
Allen went to 11 out of 12 straight Pro Bowls (not voted to 2002 Pro Bowl because he had a season-ending injury in Game 5). I would be willing to bet he would have been in 12 straight if not for the injury shortened season.

Allen was First Team All-Pro 6 years
Ogden was First Team All-Pro 4 years

Both were on Super Bowl winning teams:
Allen 1995 Cowboys
Ogden 2000 Ravens

Allen started 197 games in 14 years
Ogden started 176 games in 12 years

I don't see anything that shows one lineman superior to the other, both should/will be in the HOF at some point--but I, too, believed they would likely only add one lineman this year, and I think a "slight" edge goes to Larry Allen. I would be totally fine if both got in this year.


Do the Ogden supporters have any strong arguments/discussion why Ogden is superior to Allen, or is it just a personal preference as well between two worthy players? >>




Of course I agree. However, I do note that Ogden is #72 in the NFL top 100 players of all time and Larry is #95. I am not sure why. I think Larry has a better back story too; multiple high schools around the state, Butte JC (same as Aaron Rogers), back on the streets of Compton for a year, gets recruited to no-scholarship division II school, never gives up a sack in two years there, and then gets drafted in second round.

GR

Larry Allen was a guard, not a tackle.... See Jerry Kramer...lol

Ahmanfan

I think Allen is just as worthy as Ogden. Both should be in, I just memtioned ogden because nobody else did

larryallen73

<< <i>Larry Allen was a guard, not a tackle.... See Jerry Kramer...lol >>



He played both spots in his career.

Ahmanfan

Larry might be the strongest man to ever play professional football.

GR

Ogden, Strahan, Carter, Debartolo, Modell, Robinson

larryallen73

In!

PSASAP

The five who made it are: Larry Allen, Jonathan Ogden, Cris Carter, Warren Sapp and Bill Parcells. The Veterans Committee also voted in Curley Culp and Dave Robinson.

onlyanumber

Surprised by two OLs, but both deserved it. Nice to see Carter finally getting in. Always thought he would have been a first ballot inductee.

lbcoach20

Met Dave Robinson when was coaching h.s. Football. Real gentleman and role model. Glad Carter got in, too!