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MS66 FBL Franklin.......

DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
Yes or No to the FBL designation (for the time being, let's not debate the ms66).

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"Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)

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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They are full




    On the right half of the bell only.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i'm going to say not but i've also disagreed with many that i've seen. the standards for fbl seem to be laxed imo
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    sniocsusniocsu Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    Full
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    coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm thinking it could have gotten it, on a really good day, but I wouldn't have submitted it thinking I was going to get FBL on it. I would vote "maybe close, but....no"

    Here is the reverse of a PCGS 64FBL
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    Here is the reverse of a PCGS 65FBL
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    And, here is the reverse of a PCGS 66FBL
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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bochiman...very good examples!

    The coin I chose to 'pick on' in my opening post is in my opinion neither a 66 or a FBL.

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no, just to the left of the crack I don't see it
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    AmigoAmigo Posts: 966 ✭

    I vote no
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    RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm going with no FBL based on the photo. Coin in hand might reveal more detail to the left of the crack but it looks pretty weak to me. If it was my $$, I'd want stronger detail regardless of what the holder says.
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    georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭
    Watch out now... Bushmaster was bushwhacked for this type of post.

    If PCGS says it is FBL then it must be. See?image
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    robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    No.
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,582 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No

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    MS65FBL
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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, too mushy left of the crack.

    GrandAm image
    GrandAm :)
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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Watch out now... Bushmaster was bushwhacked for this type of post.

    If PCGS says it is FBL then it must be. See?image >>



    Hmmmm....I think he went a little further than me.

    First of all, I haven't even mentioned who graded it.

    Secondly, all posters who start a post questioning a grade of their coin and their submission results should be banned?

    This place would only have about 5 viewers left.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,201 ✭✭✭✭
    Negatory on FBL, but nice coin otherwise image (or at least judging by the reverse) image
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    metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Graders will give a no IMHO
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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The FBLs posted by Bochiman and Goldbully are what an FBL should look like.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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    georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm betting the coin is in a holder that bears a coin/series number.

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    SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I personally would not give it a FBL, but I've seen plenty that are graded FBL (by both major TPG's) that have those sort of issues. As Stefanie mentioned, it will depend to a certain extent on the date/mm, e.g. if there is a major premium for that date/mm for FBL then it will not grade FBL.
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    melikecoinsmelikecoins Posts: 1,154 ✭✭
    No

    Glen
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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm betting the coin is in a holder that bears a coin/series number. >>



    No it's not.

    But I understand your comment because I have always said that this type of holder (that period of time) seemed to produce a great many overgraded coins.

    A few posters here have flamed me for saying this but this is what I see.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whether its a FBL or not partially depends on how many times you submit it. It's only the highest grading event that ultimately counts.

    I'd vote no on FBL. No Franklin expert here, but don't the standards get slightly tighter as the price and grade goes up?
    If this were a 1962 or 1963 for instance, I'd say no way.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 34,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i vote no. is it me or am i seeing thing is e pluribus unum. seem like theres doubling or something? <shrugs>

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