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What is vntage?

I know this has been discussed before. However, I am more interested in knowing the reasoning behind other's thinking of what is considered vintage. For example, I consider vintage to be pre-1970 because that was the first year that I collected. Anything from 1969 or earlier seemed very old, prior to going to card shows in the early 80's.

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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    I've heard 1975, 1978 (the most) and recently 1989.
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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    to know what is vntage, you need a good i.
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>to know what is vntage, you need a good i. >>



    Good play on words and spelling! image
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  • Official vintage in the sports card industry is considered 1980 and earlier. I personally think anything from even the mid 1980's would be considered vintage/retro but I guess since most have no real value, then most wouldnt consider it vintage but more like junk.
  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭
    Personally, I think "vintage" is an inappropriate word to use with any collectible - it's too subjective.

    I classify my cards as: 19th century, Pre-War, Post-War and modern. I guess you're wondering where I draw the line between post-war and modern.. Personally, I pin 1974 as the last post war set. 1975 Topps was the first to use one series and sets the stage for the over produced 1980's junk sets.
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Personally, I think "vintage" is an inappropriate word to use with any collectible - it's too subjective.

    I classify my cards as: 19th century, Pre-War, Post-War and modern. I guess you're wondering where I draw the line between post-war and modern.. Personally, I pin 1974 as the last post war set. 1975 Topps was the first to use one series and sets the stage for the over produced 1980's junk sets. >>



    Isn't modern an antonym for vintage? image

    Edited to add: Wouldn't the start date for modern be the end date for vintage? image
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  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Isn't modern an antonym for vintage? image

    Edited to add: Wouldn't the start date for modern be the end date for vintage? image >>




    LOL! I see what you did there.

    "Vintage" is such an overused word. It shouldn't be used in hobby talks IMO.



    Personally, I don't deal with anything past 1975, so I don't really care what you want to call it image
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  • From what I can tell, at least the SMR is that anything 1973 and before is Vintage. And I note the distinction in the grading where they list a PSA 9 as the highest grade up to 1973. Where from 1974 on, PSA 10 becomes the highest listed grade. To me that suggests that PSA 10's become more common in 1974 on.
  • mcolney1mcolney1 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭


    << <i>From what I can tell, at least the SMR is that anything 1973 and before is Vintage. And I note the distinction in the grading where they list a PSA 9 as the highest grade up to 1973. Where from 1974 on, PSA 10 becomes the highest listed grade. To me that suggests that PSA 10's become more common in 1974 on. >>



    Also, 1973 is the last year when cards were produced in series until recently.
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  • << <i>Personally, I don't deal with anything past 1975, so I don't really care what you want to call it image >>


    This, but with 1978.
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  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭
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  • Vintage is Pre WW2
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    Noun
    The year or place in which wine, esp. wine of high quality, was produced.

    Adjective
    Of, relating to, or denoting wine of high quality: "vintage claret".
  • My personal opinion is 1975 and older, but I do see a good debate for 1969 and older. I just think that Topps baseball from 1970-1975 is very collectible!
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  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭
    Vintage is anything older than me.
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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've always considered it pre-1970, but, admittedly, that could be partly because the paradigm already existed in my mind with film.
  • PSASAPPSASAP Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭
    Anything older than you is vintage, anything newer is modern.
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  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    But some of the collectors on this site might have been born in 1990, I would not call 1987 Topps vintage no matter if they were produced a few years before my birth........ I was born in the 1970s but in no way would I call 1987 Topps or 1988 Donruss vintage, LOL.
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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,615 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Good play on words and spelling! >>



    +1
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  • JuggsJuggs Posts: 495
    Some days vintage feels like yesterday.

    For cards, I always consider anything pre-1975 to be vintage.
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Noun
    The year or place in which wine, esp. wine of high quality, was produced.

    Adjective
    Of, relating to, or denoting wine of high quality: "vintage claret". >>



    So vintage cards are cards with a Wine theme?
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  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭
    If you have a specific date in mind...1975, 1978.... when do you determine to move it a year.. 1976, 1979?

    Cars are 25 years aren't they, to be called classics?

    should be definitive in the hobby....
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