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71 Rollie Fingers PSA 7 potential regrade - Opinions Requested

jrbolesjrboles Posts: 566 ✭✭
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I picked this up on the electronic bay on NYE and am pleased with the card. I bought a couple raw last year and have had little success so I find this well worth the $40. My scanner is not the best so I will contend that corners and sides look great and the back is in great shape and better centered.

Is it worth a review? Crackout and re-sub? Your opinions are welcome and valued.

Your pal
jr

Editted to add: The shpootz is on my scanner - not the card or holder

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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    very very sharp card but i think its in the proper case. Print and centering make it a high end 7.
  • BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 3,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been collecting 1971 PSA 7s for a while. This is very nice for the grade. I could see it bumping and I don't think the centering would prevent a higher grade. Nice card!
    Daniel
  • bbuckner22bbuckner22 Posts: 1,028 ✭
    I'd try to crack and re-sub. Worst case it comes back a 7, think it has an outside shot at an 8. Big upside to the risk.
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  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096
    If the color is as washed-out as it appears in the scan, leave it alone. If that's not the case in hand, I'd think it has a good chance.

    Is it worth it financially, though? Looks like it's about a $30-$40 card in PSA 7. What does an 8 go for?
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  • RyanAdmirerRyanAdmirer Posts: 632 ✭✭
    I think most graders would call it an 8 but you could get one that makes centering more of a priority and he could say "7". If it were me I'd crack it/send it in again.
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  • jrbolesjrboles Posts: 566 ✭✭
    Walter - color is solid. Added a couple higher grades for comparison. I have not seen an 8 for sale but guess the difference is significant.

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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Just an FYI ...

    VCP in "7" = $30.00

    VCP in "8" = $180.00
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  • YogiBerraFanYogiBerraFan Posts: 2,390 ✭✭
    Crack and re-sub. It is close enough to an 8 that it is worth a shot.
  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096


    << <i>Just an FYI ...

    VCP in "7" = $30.00

    VCP in "8" = $180.00 >>


    Ummmmmm...... yeah. That'd be worth it, then.
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  • jrbolesjrboles Posts: 566 ✭✭
    Sounds like a plan. Thanks gentlemen. I swore I wasn't going to re-up with PSA until they cleaned up their yard - or at least my October group sub grades popped. Might have to take a plunge.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,126 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yah I'd gove it another shot. Top to bottom centering is marginal so it just depends on the grader. There's enough upside to make it worth your while.
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  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Worse case it comes back worse.

    Nice looking card - I'd check the surface and back carefully before doing anything. >>



    I vehemently disagree with your position on this hobby related issue.
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Worse case it comes back worse.

    Nice looking card - I'd check the surface and back carefully before doing anything. >>



    I vehemently disagree with your position on this hobby related issue. >>



    Chance it comes back as 8 OC? The kiss of death...
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  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is another one of those cards where eye appeal and technical centering don't agree because the team name sits lower on the card than for the majority of '71's. As a result, there's more border space on top than the size of the bottom border would otherwise suggest. I certainly think it has the eye appeal for an 8.
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  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Compare these two:

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    There doesn't seem to be much uniformity to the spacing between the different lines on '71's, so exact centering measurements don't always reflect eye appeal.
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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭
    8OC
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 12,000 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Card is not OC
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  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like an 8 to me. It wont get an OC.
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  • SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    That is a very tough card in PSA 8. It was one of the final cards I picked up to finish my Black is Black set on the Registry.

    I would definitely crack it and resubmit it.

    Don't waste your time with an upgrade request.
  • MeferMefer Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭
    I would crack and resubmit. I have had fluctuations as much as two grade points with crack and resubmits on grading 71s.
  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I vote crack and resubmit as well.

    That being said, I think it is a good idea having got opinions beforehand. I've cracked and resubmitted a few cards before and had great luck with it, getting a positive grade bump each time. However, on my most recent take at it, I had 2 vintage items, one from 1949 and one from 1960, that on the first go around got a PSA 5 and a 6. I was absolutely positive they should both be 7's so I did the crack/resub and hoped for the best. Got them back this week: former 5 became a no grade evid. of trim. (I definitely can't find evidence of trimming on it!) and the 6 went down to a 5. So, I'm going to end up sending them back in for a 3rd time at some point, hoping instead to at least regain the initial grades.
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