Any info on cardboard stock 1897 Netherlands 2.5 Gulden....

savoyspecial

Made of cardboard but normal diameter (underweight goes without saying)
Also of interest: No 2.5 Guldens were minted in 1897 (and if there had been they would have bore the image of Wilhelmina, as Wilhelm III died in 1890)

Any ideas on this piece.....Thanks in advance!

Jinx86

Leave it to you to find the really cool stuff. Ive never seen anything like it, great find.

candy2012mustang

odd...are your sure its..........cardboard???

savoyspecial

cardboard or pressboard.....some pulp based material.....the color is actually more tan than my picture would lead you to believe......would look great in a slab if our hosts would be so kind (would be VERY lightweight, basically just the weight of the plastic)

historical footnote: there actually is some precedent for cardboard coins by the Dutch, though much earlier

(from Wiki)
>>In 1572, the city sided with the Dutch revolt against Spanish rule and played an important role in the Eighty Years' War. Besieged from May until October 1574 by the Spanish, Leiden was relieved by the cutting of the dikes, thus enabling ships to carry provisions to the inhabitants of the flooded town. As a reward for the heroic defence of the previous year, the University of Leiden was founded by William I of Orange in 1575. Yearly on 3 October, the end of the siege is still celebrated in Leiden. Tradition tells that the citizens were offered the choice between a university and a certain exemption from taxes and chose the university. The siege is notable also for being the first instance in Europe of the issuance of paper money, with paper taken from prayer books being stamped using coin dies when silver ran out>>

WillieBoyd2

Could the item be some sort of play money?

savoyspecial

Play money was my first thought but it seems to have been struck with the actual coin dies based on details of denticles and lettering

Andres

These were used in dutch schools to learn children how to go along with currency,
there were also banknotes used, but these had funny designs , to avoid spending as the real thing.
google: schoolgeld , to find out more about these kind of coins.

savoyspecial

Thanks Andres, that makes sense! Also, might account for why a posthumous Wilhelm III portrait was chosen

ormandh

Cool!

Andres

Found this one on a local dutch site, together with the other denominations of 10 guilders , 1 guilder, 25 cents, 10 cents etc.


asking prices 5 euro a piece , or less for the smaler ones.

lordmarcovan

How bizarre. I had never heard of these.

Andres

Hi Rob, 2 more , a cartboard 10 guilder gold 1897 & a quarter guilder 1897 silver

savoyspecial

Andres also shared this picture with me:

lordmarcovan

Could they have possibly used the actual coin dies to produce the cardboard replicas?

PS- it is also interesting to see that all of them shown here so far (excluding that 1960s set) are dated 1897. Perhaps all part of a similar set?

Andres

No idear, but they are different in details compared with the real ones.

many other years for sale too:

lordmarcovan

Those are really neat.

They wouldn't work too well under my metal detector searchcoil, though.

They aren't as neat as the porcelain German notgeld pieces, but still pretty interesting.

Andres

They will, there is thin layer of metal , nickel or copper foil covering these coins,
look at the 5 gulden 1912 top left , some peeling of the foil.

diferent kind of coins, these had no value, strictly for educational purpose, with the german porcelain notgeld coins you actually could buy something,
and some are indeed real beauties.