<< <i>No one's using draft position against anybody. I'm making factual statements here. Jefferies built up most of that rep after he was drafted and tore up the minor leagues as a teenager. What's dumb is the notion that you or anyone wants to look at things in hindsight and make your conclusions after the fact. What's dumb is assuming that 20+ other teams passed on Palmeiro and you want to act like he was a sure thing. If you're so "smart", tell me all of the draftees this year, last year, and next year (regardless of draft position) who will wind up with Hall of Fame careers if it's so obvious how prospects are suppose to pan out. >>
Obviously I can't do that. But I can tell you who the top prospects are - same as I could have done when Raffy was drafted. You get drafted #22, you're a top prospect. That should be pretty much indisputable, especially when you combine it with Raffy's college career.
<< <i>He tied the mentality of Li'm not voting for anyone in their first year" to Joe Dimaggio. Without verifying, I'm assuming he was a first ballot inductee. >>
It took Joe *3* tries to get in. He became eligible in 1953 (I guess there was just a 1-year waiting period then) and was elected in 1955 with 89% of the votes.
The guys elected ahead of Joe in 1953:
Dizzy Dean Al Simmons
And in 1954:
Bill Dickey Bill Terry
Can't really complain about those 4 guys but...
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* - According to the HOF itself, Dimaggio was elected in his fourth year on the ballot. Wikipedia says third.
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<< <i>No one's using draft position against anybody. I'm making factual statements here. Jefferies built up most of that rep after he was drafted and tore up the minor leagues as a teenager. What's dumb is the notion that you or anyone wants to look at things in hindsight and make your conclusions after the fact. What's dumb is assuming that 20+ other teams passed on Palmeiro and you want to act like he was a sure thing. If you're so "smart", tell me all of the draftees this year, last year, and next year (regardless of draft position) who will wind up with Hall of Fame careers if it's so obvious how prospects are suppose to pan out. >>
Obviously I can't do that. But I can tell you who the top prospects are - same as I could have done when Raffy was drafted. You get drafted #22, you're a top prospect. That should be pretty much indisputable, especially when you combine it with Raffy's college career.
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<< <i>He tied the mentality of Li'm not voting for anyone in their first year" to Joe Dimaggio. Without verifying, I'm assuming he was a first ballot inductee. >>
It took Joe *3* tries to get in. He became eligible in 1953 (I guess there was just a 1-year waiting period then) and was elected in 1955 with 89% of the votes.
The guys elected ahead of Joe in 1953:
Dizzy Dean
Al Simmons
And in 1954:
Bill Dickey
Bill Terry
Can't really complain about those 4 guys but...
Tabe
* - According to the HOF itself, Dimaggio was elected in his fourth year on the ballot. Wikipedia says third.