Moidore

WillieBoyd2

That got your attention.



Portugal Gold 4000 Reis 1704
The coin is graded by PCGS as MS-62.
The weight should be 10.76 gm and diameter 29.4 mm.

Called a "Moeda de Ouro" and abbreviated to "Moidore".

A favorite coin of pirates and buccaneers, mentioned in Robert Louis Stevenson's book Treasure Island.

lordmarcovan

<< <i>That got your attention. >>

Yes, it did.

bronzemat

Nice one!

josemartins

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For sure!

Actually a 4.800 Reis (1688 law), 28mm, 10,8 gr. coin, Gomes reference: P2 99.18a (PORT.ETAL.G.REX), very nice, congratulations!


Jose

WillieBoyd2

I believe the denomination is correct, as stated on the coin.

Stork

Okay, am I the only one who's brain twisted this into "One can not simply walk into Moi-dore" (Moi as in the French 'moi')????

Sigh, I'd like to blame too much egg nog, but it's 7 am and all I had last night was a small glass of wine!


Cathy

josemartins

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I believe the denomination is correct, as stated on the coin.

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Oddly....No.

It is a 4800 Reis coin, it took about 150 years (from 1688 to the late 1830's) and a decimalization reform to the Portuguese Silver and Gold coins(*) worth their face value, until then:

Coins with denomination:

20000 = 24000
10000 = 12000
4000 = 4800
2000 = 2400
1000 = 1200
400 = 480 (Both Gold and Silver)
200 = 240
80 (LXXX) = 100
40 (XXXX) = 50

Undenominated coins of 100 and 50 Reis where revalued at 120 and 60 Reis and only the 20 Reis coins maintained their value.

...so far, none of the Krause editions are 100% correct on this matter, the most common mistakes are stating that the LXXX is still 80 Reis, altough they name it a Tostão (Tostão = 100 Réis) and maintaining the 2000 and 4000 values when they should be 2400 and 4800 Reis.


(*) - This not affects the value of the undenominated gold "escudos" coins and its fractions created during D. Joao V reign, only the
"moeda/cruzado" issues.

Jose