Confused as to why everybody doesn't use Probstein??
Doublestriker
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I recently sold about 4 cards/packs with him. I was surprised that the cost to sell with him was so low. The difference in selling with him versus on my own was just a few cents (including ebay and paypal fees). And the best part about it was I didn't have to answer all the silly questions from buyers. This is not meant to be an advertisement I just wanted to let others know what I didn't know before selling with him.
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Bob
email bcmiller7@comcast.net
<< <i>The only reason I can see for sending your stuff to an off ebay auction house is if you had plans to shill it up via their anonymous bidding structure - this is of course reprehensible behavior but a reality of some AHs especially when it comes to high value items. >>
You need to register to bid with the auction houses. And you need to provide legitimate references. You can't just go ahead and make a dummy account with false info and then bid on your items. And with items of significant value, most auction houses will require a deposit in order to bid if the bidder is not well known to the auction house.
With the auction houses, the biggest concern is with the auction house owners being able to see max bids. Most auction houses are auctioning items that they own, and can easily run up the bids. They also have an incentive to run up bids on items they don't own so that they get more consignments in the future.
The major ebay consignment sellers provide a nice service in theory but it is being seriously abused by the criminals that consign to them. It's no secret that the easiest way to shill is to consign to PWCC or Probstein and then bid using your own ebay account. It's that simple, and there really isn't any way to get caught. You'd be bidding with an established account that has no link to the seller, and you'd more than likely have a history of bidding on similar items. It has become the wild wild west.
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<< <i>The only reason I can see for sending your stuff to an off ebay auction house is if you had plans to shill it up via their anonymous bidding structure - this is of course reprehensible behavior but a reality of some AHs especially when it comes to high value items. >>
You need to register to bid with the auction houses. And you need to provide legitimate references. You can't just go ahead and make a dummy account with false info and then bid on your items. And with items of significant value, most auction houses will require a deposit in order to bid if the bidder is not well known to the auction house.
With the auction houses, the biggest concern is with the auction house owners being able to see max bids. Most auction houses are auctioning items that they own, and can easily run up the bids. They also have an incentive to run up bids on items they don't own so that they get more consignments in the future.
The major ebay consignment sellers provide a nice service in theory but it is being seriously abused by the criminals that consign to them. It's no secret that the easiest way to shill is to consign to PWCC or Probstein and then bid using your own ebay account. It's that simple, and there really isn't any way to get caught. You'd be bidding with an established account that has no link to the seller, and you'd more than likely have a history of bidding on similar items. It has become the wild wild west. >>
All that hot air from you and no pic of you in a stupid looking hat? GEEZUZ!
Some people are too lazy/busy to sell things themselves, and people like Probstein have every right to make a living on those people. He provides a great service and from what I can see he does an incredible job at it. He probably provides some of the best scans on the market, and sometimes that actually hurts his business because some people aren't used to seeing cards at 10x zoom.
Either use him, or don't use him. I don't see why it's talked about so much.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
<< <i>This is a non sequitur, but I want to formally thank perkdog for his contributions to this forum. I'll never have a problem digesting Mr. Bean's melon on top of an infant's trunk as long as you're around to even the score, sir. Now, proceed with the subterfuge debate. >>
<< <i>When I looked into it, the fees were higher with Probstein. I'm typically netting about 85-87% of my final hammer price after counting the fees and shipping costs. I think probstein net was around 75-77%. >>
It's not a free service.
<< <i>This is a non sequitur, but I want to formally thank perkdog for his contributions to this forum. I'll never have a problem digesting Mr. Bean's melon on top of an infant's trunk as long as you're around to even the score, sir. Now, proceed with the subterfuge debate. >>
You can use all the fancy words you want to sound educated but save your "formal thanks" and "sirs" for someone else who gives a rats a$$ about your pathetic nonsense.
Oh and for the record I have dontated plenty of money to fundraisers and given away more free stuff in my tenure here than you will ever know so if I feel like throwing some barbs at a poster whom I dont like from time to time I will continue to do so, Maybe one day you might get to know some peoples names here, do bussiness with a few members and contribute something yourself, until then go F yourself. How about that?
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<< <i>This is a non sequitur, but I want to formally thank perkdog for his contributions to this forum. I'll never have a problem digesting Mr. Bean's melon on top of an infant's trunk as long as you're around to even the score, sir. Now, proceed with the subterfuge debate. >>
You can use all the fancy words you want to sound educated but save your "formal thanks" and "sirs" for someone else who gives a rats a$$ about your pathetic nonsense.
Oh and for the record I have dontated plenty of money to fundraisers and given away more free stuff in my tenure here than you will ever know so if I feel like throwing some barbs at a poster whom I dont like from time to time I will continue to do so, Maybe one day you might get to know some peoples names here, do bussiness with a few members and contribute something yourself, until then go F yourself. How about that? >>
Roid rage? I think he was just saying he likes the images in your sig line.
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<< <i>This is a non sequitur, but I want to formally thank perkdog for his contributions to this forum. I'll never have a problem digesting Mr. Bean's melon on top of an infant's trunk as long as you're around to even the score, sir. Now, proceed with the subterfuge debate. >>
You can use all the fancy words you want to sound educated but save your "formal thanks" and "sirs" for someone else who gives a rats a$$ about your pathetic nonsense.
Oh and for the record I have dontated plenty of money to fundraisers and given away more free stuff in my tenure here than you will ever know so if I feel like throwing some barbs at a poster whom I dont like from time to time I will continue to do so, Maybe one day you might get to know some peoples names here, do bussiness with a few members and contribute something yourself, until then go F yourself. How about that? >>
What Maurice said. I like your pictures, bro.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
<< <i>What Maurice said. I like your pictures, bro. >>
Well looks like Im the uneducated one, I thought you were attacking me.
My sincere apoligies
<< <i>Confused as to why everybody is too lazy to list their own cards. >>
its not mainly that. If you have a high end item, they typically sell for alot more when you consign to a seller that only sells things. They have the feedback and reputation to really move the item.
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<< <i>What Maurice said. I like your pictures, bro. >>
Well looks like Im the uneducated one, I thought you were attacking me.
My sincere apoligies >>
Not necessary, but appreciated nonetheless. If I were to lob a stone at you for misconstruing something I said online, I'd be doing so while standing on shards of glass.
Since I created a diversion I'll give my $.02 on auction houses vs. eBay. Suffice it to say that if there's money involved, chicanery will run rampant. I have had only one taste of an AH (more on that later), but I've been on eBay since the late 90's. Speaking empirically, I can say with a high degree of certitude that the latter simply does not care. I have personally brought to light some of the most egregious examples of shill bidding over the years, only to have eBay reps (via the phone, mind you) offer up responses that were nothing short of insulting. In retrospect, I shouldn't have been surprised. After all, doing the right thing is not a profitable endeavor.
As for auction houses, my one and only foray took place during Dmitri's liquidation. I left myself exposed on a couple of cards, primarily because I was unable to see it through to the end. I attached a premium to my max and threw caution to the wind, knowing full well what could potentially happen. Bottom line is that I simply wanted the cards, therefore I was prepared for the worst case scenario. Well, I not only acquired what I wanted, but I did so well underneath my threshold. Granted, I was not a big fish, but had the wrong eyes seen the right information, my wallet could have been lightened in a nanosecond.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
TheClockworkAngelCollection
<< <i>Not trying to beat a dead horse or anything but, I just consigned my RC collection to Rick. The auction ended on Thursday night and the final hammer prices were great . . .no shilling on my end :-) Just about every card sold for more than the price i bought them for, some even double. Money's not everything, but I am getting out of collecting for now and was looking for the best option for selling. Rick's commission was worth the hassle I would have had trying to deal with receiving payment and mailing 250+ cards. Best of all, I had the money the next day in my PayPal account. He really runs a very professional company. Merry Christmas to everyone! >>
Same thing for me every time I have sent a package,I recieved more $$ than I expected and got the funds in
under a week,sometimes next day!
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