YOU Guess the grades from PSA

vintageinvestments · December 3, 2012 5:23AM

Fresh from PSA. If anyone can guess the grade accurately on the 55 williams I will PP gift them $10. This has to be done within first 5 total guesses.

gameusedhoop · December 3, 2012 5:28AM

is Ted a 7PD?

mrmint23 · December 3, 2012 5:28AM

Williams...PSA 2..paper tear top right corner

firstbase23 · December 3, 2012 5:31AM

I'll say PSA 8 (oc)

handyman · December 3, 2012 5:31AM

williams PSA 3
Hope im wrong

thedutymon · December 3, 2012 5:31AM

Afternoon,

VG-EX+ 4.5 !

Yeehah

Neil

larryallen73 · December 3, 2012 5:32AM

7

conor912 · December 3, 2012 5:34AM

Straight 6.5

vintageinvestments · December 3, 2012 5:34AM

With the exception of the Jordan I got brutalized on these. That is my only hint and no there is no tears/wrinkles/creases/PDs etc. on the Williams. I predict that in the next 3 guesses the only one you could possibly get correct would be the CJ or the Jordan.

Jason

Brick · December 3, 2012 5:37AM

PSA 4. Bottom edge

vettfanatic · December 3, 2012 5:37AM

Spahn psa 4
cracker jack psa 3
williams psa 5
jordan psa 9

KbKards · December 3, 2012 5:38AM

Must be a mislabel. PSA 6 mc.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q138/iakona8/55williamspsa6mc.jpg

vintageinvestments · December 3, 2012 5:44AM

Since KBKards had to post the link. Here they are:

vintageinvestments · December 3, 2012 5:46AM

Nope no mislabel. I called and they had no answer. Just said I could resub and pay another fee for a review.

vintageinvestments · December 3, 2012 5:49AM

Spahn should have been PSA 6, Robinson PSA 3, Gessler PSA 4-5. The Gessler is a 1914. Staining should not have it down that low on a 14. The authentics and Williams (mc) is upsetting. Would love to know an expanation on the authentics and the (mc), but they are not accessible.

Jason

firedawg45 · December 3, 2012 5:51AM

im totally lost on the williams psa 6mc. looks good to me, and why didnt the spahn and campy get a grade???

vintageinvestments · December 3, 2012 5:56AM

Dont know on Spahn and Campy. They will not tell me anything. They are not #1 trimmed (evid trim), #2 Ink (mk), nor #3 altered. I think I must have got the substitute grader for the week. I also received horrible grades on resubs of some 9s that are now 7s and 8s from this order. I am very disappointed overall. I have 118 cards to go so hopefully they do not read this post before slabbing.

Jason

Dboneesq · December 3, 2012 7:02AM

How in the hell does that get a MC??????? Aren't the borders clearly defined on both sides? I think they should give you an explanation on that one and NOT make you pay for it!

gemint · December 3, 2012 7:14AM

Miscut can apply to more than 100-0 or worse O/C. It's hard to tell from the scan but look for an uneven border or a clip on one of the borders. A lot of vintage cards have a non-square cut due to the sheet slipping while it was being cut. I have several '56s that fall into that category. Usually the miscut is obvious but sometimes it is subtle. If you feel strongly that the card is not miscut, crack it and resub it. If you bought it off eBay as a EX-MT or NM card, that's probably why it was being sold raw.

vintageinvestments · December 3, 2012 7:55AM

No I sent in for a friend, but considering his other two from the sub was slabbed "authentic" you can see why he is pissed. He hit a trifecta of screwed from PSA this sub. I am aware of clipped corner inconsitencies. However, this card had none. This was just a victim of sloppy grading. Just wait until I post more from my other subs.

Jason

Slabbed · December 3, 2012 8:21AM

Williams is not a 6MC. Call Joe Orlando and explain the card to him and im sure he will tell you to send the card to him for a look. Do not be shy with him Joe is a top notch guy.

goraiders · December 3, 2012 8:44AM

Is Jordan for sale?

otwcards · December 3, 2012 8:56AM

Robinson appears to have color added to the lower right, but hard to tell from the scan. The Spahn looks as though it was soaked to remove some of the back staining (that's not wet transfer) and also trimmed on the top edge. The Williams has me swinging as it makes no sense. The Gessler appears accurate in a PSA 3 based upon the depth of the staining.

bobbyw8469 · December 3, 2012 10:00AM

Very odd grades. The Williams does not appear to be miscut whatsoever and the Cracker Jack card got a straight grade and totally missed the (ST) qualifier. Head scratchers for sure.

otwcards · December 3, 2012 10:50AM

<< <i>Very odd grades. The Williams does not appear to be miscut whatsoever and the Cracker Jack card got a straight grade and totally missed the (ST) qualifier. Head scratchers for sure. >>

The Gessler CJ is "net" graded and most of the '14s don't get a qualifier at that grade level. The '15s will because they were available as a mail-in versus the '14s which were out of the box...

vintageinvestments · December 3, 2012 10:56AM

The Williams is perplexing to say the least.

1914 Cracker Jacks should not get (st) qualifiers considering they only came out of the popcorn. That should have bee a 4 or 4.5 at worst.

The Jordan is accurate.

The Spahn is NOT trimmed at the top ( I have checked it more than once) and the back appears some bleed through from something.

The Robinson has NOT been colored on the corner. It has clear showing of brown edge and no signed of ink added under light and magnification. I can see where you may get this because I initially thought perhaps the same. This is not the case.

vintageinvestments · December 3, 2012 10:57AM

goraiders PM me yes the Jordan will be eventually available along with some other basketball.

Jason

vintageinvestments · December 3, 2012 11:03AM

OK I scanned the Robinson at an angle to show the clean corner to debunk coloring on the black. As you should be able to notice the edge is consistant with the card and no signed of color added.

OAKESY25 · December 3, 2012 11:08AM

did you request a min grade as authentic?
I have sent it in like that meaning either way put it in a holder.. and they
took it that I wanted it graded as authentic only.. I called before they shipped and had them graded with a #

vintageinvestments · December 3, 2012 11:16AM

No I didnt...........It is funny the customer service girl on the phone asked me the same question. I would rather it not be encapsulated.

mealeworm · December 3, 2012 11:17AM

Cards can be miscut without the traditional border cut off or part of another card showing. I am not saying this is the case but it is possible it is 100% square. I will say that is a tough feat to get a miscut pre 57 card into a holder but it is possible. Harsh grades to say the least.

Dave

Littletweed · December 3, 2012 2:42PM

What does the back look like on the the Williams? I ask because I have graded a few cards that were decently centered but were o/c on the back with a very small portion of a different card showing. They all got the (mc) qualifier.

larryallen73 · December 3, 2012 11:02PM

Reminds me of many of my subs over the years. Very frustrating.

dblonski · December 4, 2012 12:01AM

<< <i>Dont know on Spahn and Campy. They will not tell me anything. They are not #1 trimmed (evid trim), #2 Ink (mk), nor #3 altered. I think I must have got the substitute grader for the week. I also received horrible grades on resubs of some 9s that are now 7s and 8s from this order. I am very disappointed overall. I have 118 cards to go so hopefully they do not read this post before slabbing.

Jason >>

it's bs that they told you to resub? i think it's also bs that they won't give you an explanation on the auth and mc grades.

YOU Guess the grades from PSA

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