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216 Kilos of gold stolen from "fishing boat"

CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    mhammermanmhammerman Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭
    Oh my gosh...yet another gold stash lost to a boating accident. It seems to be happening more and more.
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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most likely a clandestine way of moving legal gold under the criminal radar. Appears an insider shared the info.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was wondering if it was drug dealers trying to move proceeds back south. Easier to move $11,000,000+ in gold than $11 million in bundles of U.S. currency.
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    Linky?
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    CoulportCoulport Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭
    They will probably have as much success as their counterparts on Aruba did with the Holloway case.
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    This is a copy of the actual article.
    My interpretation leans against drug smugglers engaged in money laundering as well as against gold smuggling. Provided that the reporter's claim "which contacted officials in Curacao about the incoming gold shipment as part of regular security protocol." One wouldn't think that a prudent move upon the part of those engaged in criminal activity but then perhaps there are others on this site who could speak with more authority from personal experience.
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    Where would one obtain clothing emblazoned with the word "POLICE" upon short notice? How would such a wardrobed gang have known that a boat had gold and not fish or tourists or whatever? How easy is it to convince security guards that you are custom's officials?
    " 'Curiouser and curiouser' said Alice"........
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    On an entirely different note: How does the reported production of this single (relatively obscure) country affect the calculations of those who seek to determine the 'production cost' ( and by implication, a 'floor' below which gold prices 'cannot fall') of gold by analysing the reported production vs. costs of the 'legitimate' major companies? What I mean is, what is the 'production cost' of the 325,000 'estimated' ounces of gold that is bootlegged? And what about other countries, like Ghana, Guinea, the floorboards in Sacramento, California...........?
    How much gold is coming into the market which is entirely invisible regarding its provenance? If 300 miners make $52 per year apeice and they produce............ounces of gold.......
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    Heist, Curacao Gold Theft, Gold Heist, World News
    The "Summer Bliss" fishing boat sits docked at the Willemstad port in Curacao, Friday, Nov. 30, 2012. Masked men in jackets emblazoned with the word "police" boarded the "Summer Bliss" in an early morning assault on Friday and stole 70 gold bars worth an estimated $11.5 million, police spokesman Reggie Huggins said. (AP Photo/Karen Attiah) WILLEMSTAD, Curacao — Police in Curacao said Saturday that they have several leads following a brazen heist in which gunmen pretending to be police stole 70 gold bars worth an estimated $11.5 million from a fishing boat.

    Authorities have the license plate number of one of three cars used in Friday's getaway, and they have been asking for the public's help in tracking the suspects, police spokesman Reggie Huggins told The Associated Press.

    "There is information coming in," he said. "We are getting reactions from the public, but we still have to sort it out."

    Police have said that at least six men were involved, but no one has been arrested in a case that surprised authorities in the Dutch Caribbean island.

    Huggins said police are still interviewing the captain and three crew members of the ship, which contacted officials in Curacao about the incoming gold shipment as part of regular security protocol. The gold bars weigh about 216 kilograms (476 pounds).

    Police declined to say where the gold was being delivered, but one crew member, who identified himself to the AP as Raymond Emmanuel, said they were delivering the gold to an unidentified company in Curacao.

    He said the crew left Guyana on Monday and arrived in Curacao early Friday. Shortly after the ship docked, masked gunmen wearing jackets with the word "police" assaulted the boat's captain and then stole the gold bars.

    Huggins said that security guards allowed the suspects to enter a restricted area thinking they were customs officials.

    Rechenel Martyn, spokesman for Curacao Customs, said the boat's captain shared with authorities the intended recipient of the gold bars, but he declined to release the name because the case is under investigation. He added that the ship's crew followed protocol and that there is no special procedure for shipments of high value.


    Meanwhile, officials in Guyana said they are investigating whether the gold was mined in the South American country, which is near Curacao.

    Environment Minister Robert Persaud told the AP that they have requested details about the gold bars, adding that such shipments are usually flown directly to the buyer and involve heavy security. The ship's crew members have said they weren't armed.

    Both Persaud and Anan Balram, director of Guyana's Gold Board, said that if the gold was mined in Guyana, it would be a clear case of smuggling.

    "We don't want to jump the gun and say that the gold is from Guyana," Persaud said. "That is what we first have to establish, as well as if the ship many any other stops anywhere else."

    Officials said there is no record of the ship, named "Summer Bliss," leaving Guyana's Port Georgetown Harbor, adding that it could have left from a pier at any of the country's numerous rivers.

    Guyana produces roughly 650,000 ounces of gold a year, and officials say that up to half that amount is smuggled out of the country to avoid paying taxes. Most of the gold is sold in neighboring Brazil, Venezuela and Suriname.

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    Associated Press writer Bert Wilkinson reported from Georgetown, Guyana.



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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i heard there were onto some of the suspects. anyone know any more?
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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got the info this past weekend !!! image
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    streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I lost my gold in a boating accident also. Isn't that a coincidence?

    Darn, I wish I still had my physical gold. Guess I'll have to settle for paper trading.

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    CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭


    Just read the article and watched the video, it screams insurance scam to me.........


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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,217 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just read the article and watched the video, it screams insurance scam to me......... >>


    doubt there was an insurance policy given the lack of security. Who's gonna insure that kind of operation?

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,566 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Just read the article and watched the video, it screams insurance scam to me......... >>


    doubt there was an insurance policy given the lack of security. Who's gonna insure that kind of operation? >>



    Yeah, this wan't exactly a Brink's truck, was it!
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