Tiffany Co. and Silver. Ever scrap/melt any silver from a light blue wrapper?
Baley
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There was just a story on CNBC with Melissa Lee and Analyst Brian Nagal of Oppenheimer about jewelry retailer Tiffany that had a line to the effect of, "Tiffany competes with Cartier and others at the high end [of the market] but also has a low end business primarily about silver" indicating that almost no one buys 2 million dollar pink diamond rings, however many would buy a $200 silver charm or $500 silver bangle bracelet or some such.
Tiffany missed earnings but the commentators spoke "the shine being off of Tiffany" due to disappointing sales, but the potential of lower materials costs possibly helping over the next quarters, and it occurred to me that the silver itself in Tiffany doodads, while certainly a cost input, is actually a small fraction of the eventual sales price (Tiffany apparently never discounts goods) but the major costs of this stuff is in overhead, craftsmanship, marketing, profit margin, etc.
I wonder if some people had silver Tiffany products that they thought were worth a lot of money with the rise in metals, but when when weighed for sale were worth relatively few dollars vs. their cost, even if bought or gifted a long time ago.
My questions are, Have you ever handled any Tiffany (or other designer) silver items at scrap/melt prices? If so, what kind of items, and if you have had or seen them in resale, but at a markup to melt, about what % was it? obviously, if more than melt value was paid, the item was not melted; any neat pieces that you decided to keep instead?
Tiffany missed earnings but the commentators spoke "the shine being off of Tiffany" due to disappointing sales, but the potential of lower materials costs possibly helping over the next quarters, and it occurred to me that the silver itself in Tiffany doodads, while certainly a cost input, is actually a small fraction of the eventual sales price (Tiffany apparently never discounts goods) but the major costs of this stuff is in overhead, craftsmanship, marketing, profit margin, etc.
I wonder if some people had silver Tiffany products that they thought were worth a lot of money with the rise in metals, but when when weighed for sale were worth relatively few dollars vs. their cost, even if bought or gifted a long time ago.
My questions are, Have you ever handled any Tiffany (or other designer) silver items at scrap/melt prices? If so, what kind of items, and if you have had or seen them in resale, but at a markup to melt, about what % was it? obviously, if more than melt value was paid, the item was not melted; any neat pieces that you decided to keep instead?
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With the truth being they didn't run or modify their business model well enough, and needing something to say.
edited to add that I got less than melt for the lot.
You're right about the public being ripped on those small doo dads ......... then again, most people aren't buying it because they are made of sterling. Most people couldn't care less. They just want to hang something on their bodies that says "Tiffany"
I've melted a lot of tiffany silverware and holloware. The last set I had was over 200 toz in the old king george pattern I think it was. All the knives had sterling blades. It just isn't worth it to me to list many sterling pieces on Ebay, because by the time it sells, silver may not be where I want it to be. I'd rather pick and choose my spot price to sell, which means it has to be melted. At least this applies to sterling pieces that wouldn't fetch much over melt. The expense is just too great on ebay these days.
On the other hand, there are MANY tiffany sets that don't get melted because the retail price is far above melt.
I wonder if their rings get more than scrap?
it's surprising that Tiffany items only bring scrap and have no jewelry value to them.
And I guess the same could be asked for cartier, etc. s-crap?
I still have the box, it's a useful size. I keep my thailand/laos bronze canoe money and silver tiger tongue in it.