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thecoinlook
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Doing a little research... this 1809 O-112 is giving me an issue regarding what appears to be a die crack at S1 heading to the rim.
I cannot find this crack on any other Obverse-7's, (112, 113, 114, 115).
There also appears to be remnants of an "extra point" heading toward K5, unevenness at the base of (1)809, what appears to be a die scratch inside of 18(0)9, and more "bumps" on various stars...
Any help? Is it just an LDS of the 112 that nobody cares about?
Thanks!
Jordan
I cannot find this crack on any other Obverse-7's, (112, 113, 114, 115).
There also appears to be remnants of an "extra point" heading toward K5, unevenness at the base of (1)809, what appears to be a die scratch inside of 18(0)9, and more "bumps" on various stars...
Any help? Is it just an LDS of the 112 that nobody cares about?
Thanks!
Jordan
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k1 really doesn't look like a crack to me
k5 does
but closer inspection is needed imo to be 100% on both unless other examples exhibit these
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On Star-1, there appears to be a crack at ~8:00 heading toward the rim, and remnants of a repunched point heading toward 5:00.
Also on Star-5, there is something weird going on at the upper two points.
i understand completely. i viewed the obv on a pretty large screen so much so that the stars are the size of my palms and i could go bigger if the resolution was a bit better. probably tilted in slab.
if the line @ 8 in the field by k1 is a crack, it is nominal unless it develops and if it is a crack at all
the line @ k5 resembles a crack but the resolution on the image isn't sufficient enough to say definitively imo unless another coin exhibits the same crack, if it is a crack
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I was trying to make notes, but this didn't match up 100% to the book and other examples, so figured I would try to find out what was going on.
let me look again. i may have missed something that you typed.
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ok here are your inquiries
crack @ S1 - either not a crack or too minor
crack @ S5 - possibly a crack and if it is then it would be noteworthy imo
extra point @ K5 - don't see what you are talking about if you mean K5 as in 5 o'clock
uneveness (1) - negligible
scratch in (0) - can't tell but looks like damage
bumps on various stars - don't see what you are talking about
don't let anything I saw slow and/or stop you from whatever research you are doing. if you are learning and having a good time then full speed ahead
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In your opinion, as of now, is this just simply an O-112 without any special notation?
By K5, I do mean 5:00 on S1.
Attached is a close-up of star 1, of the two things I found odd.
Maybe is nothing, but to me, the left circle does appear as a crack (or repunchdd star point), and the right circle appears as a repunched point, similar to what my book shows for the 111a (but cannot find on Heritage... my book is the Parsley 4th Ed 1st Printing)
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The listed Overton die states just scratch the surface in some cases, there could definately be more defined progressions, if anyone wanted to promote them.
I don't know who's in charge of assigning additional a's b's and c's to O#'s, how that process works, but I'm sure it's pretty B-O-R-I-N-G !
edit to add...AU58 ? almost $10,000 ? Dude....!