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Legitimacy of Global Authentication

Are these guys a trusted source for signed jerseys?
I'm building a 1968 and a 1970 Topps set. I have lots of 1970s and 1960s to offer in trade.

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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    no.
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    nope
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭
    No is a strong answer. Are they MORE trusted than others that you've never heard of? Yes. Are they wholly trustworthy? No.
  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭✭
    no and any other question regarding GAI....NO
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No is a strong answer. Are they MORE trusted than others that you've never heard of? Yes. Are they wholly trustworthy? No. >>



    This is the best answer. I don't know about autos but I have a number of perfectly authentic wax and cello packs in first generation GAI holders, a number of which were purchased directly from BBCE so to wholly dismiss GAI is shortsighted, imo.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,498 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>No is a strong answer. Are they MORE trusted than others that you've never heard of? Yes. Are they wholly trustworthy? No. >>



    This is the best answer. I don't know about autos but I have a number of perfectly authentic wax and cello packs in first generation GAI holders, a number of which were purchased directly from BBCE so to wholly dismiss GAI is shortsighted, imo. >>



    The OP was referring to siged jerseys not unopened packs

    I would avoid at all cost any autogaph authenticated by GAI (the authentication adds no value whatsoever).

    IMF
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  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>

    << <i>No is a strong answer. Are they MORE trusted than others that you've never heard of? Yes. Are they wholly trustworthy? No. >>



    This is the best answer. I don't know about autos but I have a number of perfectly authentic wax and cello packs in first generation GAI holders, a number of which were purchased directly from BBCE so to wholly dismiss GAI is shortsighted, imo. >>



    The OP was referring to siged jerseys not unopened packs

    I would avoid at all cost any autogaph authenticated by GAI (the authentication adds no value whatsoever).

    IMF >>



    They weren't always horrible with autographs. The truth is that nobody is 100% perfect. PSA and JSA are the best. I would still put GAI ahead of the ACE's of the world.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>No is a strong answer. Are they MORE trusted than others that you've never heard of? Yes. Are they wholly trustworthy? No. >>



    This is the best answer. I don't know about autos but I have a number of perfectly authentic wax and cello packs in first generation GAI holders, a number of which were purchased directly from BBCE so to wholly dismiss GAI is shortsighted, imo. >>



    The OP was referring to siged jerseys not unopened packs

    I would avoid at all cost any autogaph authenticated by GAI (the authentication adds no value whatsoever).

    IMF >>



    Obviously, that's why I prefaced my statement the way I did. My point is not about any specific aspect of GAI authentication, but this
    blanket perception that anything with a GAI label on it is bogus, whether it be an auto, pack, card, etc. That's just not accurate..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • MooseDogMooseDog Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Obviously, that's why I prefaced my statement the way I did. My point is not about any specific aspect of GAI authentication, but this
    blanket perception that anything with a GAI label on it is bogus, whether it be an auto, pack, card, etc. That's just not accurate.. >>



    That is correct, but like Ironmanfan said, the GAI label adds zero value so one should not in general pay any premium for GAI authenticated stuff, unless of course you know what you're doing.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Obviously, that's why I prefaced my statement the way I did. My point is not about any specific aspect of GAI authentication, but this
    blanket perception that anything with a GAI label on it is bogus, whether it be an auto, pack, card, etc. That's just not accurate.. >>



    That is correct, but like Ironmanfan said, the GAI label adds zero value so one should not in general pay any premium for GAI authenticated stuff, unless of course you know what you're doing. >>



    That is incorrect, however, at least as far as unopened product is concerned, as the early GAI flips actually add significant value to a pack vs that same pack in raw condition.

    As far as autos are concerned, I have no idea nor do I pretend to know if the same holds true.



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe I've heard every angle on the legitimacy of GAI certified unopened material. Old flip vs. new flip etc. My question is this. Factoring everything you know into the equation, assign a probability (from 0 = sure fake to 1 = sure legit) that the pack below is legitimate:

    Memory Lane 1971 Baseball Cello
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>I believe I've heard every angle on the legitimacy of GAI certified unopened material. Old flip vs. new flip etc. My question is this. Factoring everything you know into the equation, assign a probability (from 0 = sure fake to 1 = sure legit) that the pack below is legitimate:
    Memory Lane 1971 Baseball Cello >>


    Doesn't leave much room in between, does it? LOL Unless they 2nd # should have been a 10 ... or you want people to use tenths.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I believe I've heard every angle on the legitimacy of GAI certified unopened material. Old flip vs. new flip etc. My question is this. Factoring everything you know into the equation, assign a probability (from 0 = sure fake to 1 = sure legit) that the pack below is legitimate:
    Memory Lane 1971 Baseball Cello >>


    Doesn't leave much room in between, does it? LOL Unless they 2nd # should have been a 10 ... or you want people to use tenths. >>



    A sample answer would be .75 = 75% probability of legitimacy
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Or if a number is unreasonable, state your position as a potential buyer. For example:

    "GAI new flip...I just can't risk it"

    or

    "I'm sufficiently satisfied its legitimate that I would bid."
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Without being able to see too much of the inner pack, I would pass on that since it's in a newer GAI holder. Just my feeling ... it very well could be legit ... just that it's going to be a rather expensive item and I would stay away.

    Edited to add: Here is one in an Old GAI holder (Graded 7) with Joe Morgan on back. It sold for $850.00.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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