From what point do you tell centering?
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I have looked at many PSA 10's on Ebay, but there still seems to be some inconsistency. Certain cards are very easy to tell how the centering would be measured (1967 Topps baseball, 1979 Topps baseball, 1978 topps football, 1986 topps football etc). These cards have a clearly defined border on the front of the card. But what about 1985 Topps football or 1981 topps football etc? They have wording tatis outside of the actual framing of the picture. Do you measure from the wording up, or still use the lined border? Not sre if there is a correct answer, jus looking for opinions on how you judge the centering. Thanks, Tom
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1) Distance between the top of the arch and the top of the card is almost equal to the distance from the side border to the edge of the card.
2) Distance between the bottom of the border (ignoring the name oval) and the bottom edge of the card is again similar to the side-to-side centering.
3) If the distance between the bottom of the border and the bottom edge were exactly the same as the side-to-side centering, the name oval would get too close to the bottom edge, and it would look off-center top-to-bottom.
The short answer is "if it looks centered, it probably is."
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For 1985 Topps football, I've seen PSA 10s where the Topps logo was ignored, and where the top of the Topps logo is considered the top border.
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<< <i>The answer is: whatever the PSA grader feels like. >>
+1
<< <i>Like the Ernie Banks rookie. I've seen 8's that are way o/c. >>
Yeah... I've seen PSA 8's with NO top border!!!
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<< <i>Like the Ernie Banks rookie. I've seen 8's that are way o/c. >>
Yeah... I've seen PSA 8's with NO top border!!!
That's funny! It reminds me of a time I was set up at a show in Laughlin. I had a beautiful 1954 Aaron rookie, a lady came up and was looking for one for a Xmas gift for her husband. I showed her mine, she said it was off center because it had no top border. I tried to explain to her that 1954 Topps were designed that way & even showed her some others. She said I was trying to rip her off and did not buy the card! All well!!!
<< <i>1972 Topps baseball is also a tricky year to judge centering. I think the Dick Green card shown below is nicely centered for the following reasons:
1) Distance between the top of the arch and the top of the card is almost equal to the distance from the side border to the edge of the card.
2) Distance between the bottom of the border (ignoring the name oval) and the bottom edge of the card is again similar to the side-to-side centering.
3) If the distance between the bottom of the border and the bottom edge were exactly the same as the side-to-side centering, the name oval would get too close to the bottom edge, and it would look off-center top-to-bottom.
The short answer is "if it looks centered, it probably is."
I think I have to agree with this. the first glance eye appeal will usually tell you all you need to know.
I know there are those who agree or accept the fact that a PSA Gem Mint 10 doesn't need perfect centering.
I disagree with that. Gem Mint 10 implies to me Perfect anything less would not merit the Gem Mint title.
<< <i>The answer is: whatever the PSA grader feels like.
For 1985 Topps football, I've seen PSA 10s where the Topps logo was ignored, and where the top of the Topps logo is considered the top border. >>