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RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
I have always found it amusing that when one reaches 1000 posts on the forum, they get tagged with the "Master Collector" title. The more appropriate label would probably be either "Survivor" or "Master Kibbutzer".

Nonetheless, the title or nature of the Master Collector probably warrants some attention. If you were creating a Master Collector training program, what sorts of credentials, skills, activities, readings, etc. would you advise for the candidate.

Here are some that I would suggest:

Attend a FUN or ANA coin show
View lots at a Heritage Signature Auction
Read TDN's 10,000th post here
Read Mark Feld's advice for collectors here
Start and complete a Dansco 7070 type set
Sell a coin on ebay; sell a coin to a dealer at a coin show or coin shop

I have some other ideas, but I would like to hear some suggestions from the forum.

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would STRONGLY recommend investing the time and money into attending TWO weeks of the ANA Summer Seminar and choosing the courses (both day and evening) that appeal to you. It is the BEST value in numismatic education.
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And ... if it is still up and going ... take the numismatic correspondence courses through the ANA. Sure they are not as up to date as they should be (they are pricey to produce), but the education value is still there.

    And ... become an ANA member AND check out books from the largest numismatic lending library in the world (after you learn which books you need through your ANA Summer Seminar training, of course!).
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    The post count to qualify for the title of "Master Collector" must be more than 1000, as I have approximately 2200 posts and am designated as simply a "Collector". I really don't mind, though, as I am in good company. I see that Pistareen is also just a "Collector".
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A 'Master Collector" training program would be a fantastic idea, especially if it follows the ANA's Numismatic Diploma program.
    Syllabus:
    History of Numismatics in the United States
    Advanced Grading Seminar (emphasizing grading conundrums, clever alterations, etc.)
    Transition to Becoming an Advanced Collector
    The Numismatic Business World (types of dealers, auction mechanics, pricing, coin transactions, etc.)
    a special topics course (Colonials, Early Coppers, etc.)
    Member: EAC, NBS, C4, CWTS, ANA

    RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'

    CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
  • Good topic RYK.

    I'll go with - At that level, one should be able to discuss the history and the background of any coin in their collection. e.g. Why the dot in the middle of the old cents, why was the planchet lightened to X grains in that year, etc.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The post count to qualify for the title of "Master Collector" must be more than 1000, as I have approximately 2200 posts and am designated as simply a "Collector". I really don't mind, though, as I am in good company. I see that Pistareen is also just a "Collector". >>


    The point of this thread was not to discuss the arbitrary forum cutoffs for the silly forum "titles" but to provide some examples of foundational resources for collectors who are looking to "master" numismatics.
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1.The most important 'foundational resource' is one's personal numismatic library. Learn who the numislit dealers are, and patronize them.
    2.After that, continued access to coins (good, bad, ugly...) is critical to keep one's grading skills sharp.
    3.Find a way to stay connected to your collection. About 20 years ago, I finished a set of ChAU Barber halves, and was exhausted. The coins, and the rest of my collection, sat in a safety deposit box for almost 15 years without being looked at even once. In effect, I had become an ex-collector. Find smaller projects to work on, in addition to your primary collecting focus.
    4. Find some aspect of numismatics, besides mere ownership and investment hopes, to keep you tied to the hobby.
    Member: EAC, NBS, C4, CWTS, ANA

    RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'

    CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,643 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is just like those titles they had in Marvel comics in the 1960s. We can translate them --

    RFO - Real Frantic One - buys 3 or more Marvel comics a month - translation - buy 3 or more coin mags a month

    QNS - Quite 'Nuff Sayer - had letter published in Marvel comic book - translation - had letter published in Numismatist

    etc. There were others, I am sure the collective forum will remember them.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,921 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, take my title away!

    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • +1 One more toward Master Collector image
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Missed out on three of the items on that list.

    Only got to one ANA show and Heritage did not do Portland.
    Have absolutely no interest in a type album.
    Even though I sold a lot of coins on eBay never gave a dealer the chance to rip me off at his shop, and refused their offers at the one show I took something to sell.

    Edit to add... Bruce and Marks advice to collectors were a good reread even though I read and appreciated their advice first time around I just read both again as a refresher.

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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All good suggestions, especially the ANA resources. Quite impressive considering "how little ANA does for the collector". David Sklow, ANA Librarian, is wired into the nexus of bibliophilia and a good advisor on books for your library.

    My personal take on ANA Summer Seminar: takes more than 1 year's sessions. Just too much to assimilate. Sort of like being served steak, lobster, ribs, and 5 hot fudge sundaes.

    Of course some dealers, who often have several of the skills recommended above, would probably take my menu literally and ask whether a mustard-stained shirt qualified for free access to the buffet line.image
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RYK, I have done all the things on your list......so I guess I'm good to go.image
  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RE: the TDN observation:

    "Sometimes, you have to pay too much for a coin. As long as it’s the right coin, that’s ok. In fact, for the right coin you almost always have to pay ‘too much’. The secret is in knowing which are the right coins and which are the wrong ones."

    I've made progress in integrating that advice as I continue to evolve and grow as a collector. Perhaps once one has mastered that right/wrong knowledge, then one is well on their way to becoming a "master collector".
    Seated Half Society member #38
    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"

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