Group Break Choices.....Please Read!!!!- Break Will Go Live on Thursday 11/08

cincyredlegs · October 25, 2012 8:29AM

I would like to get another group break going (hopefully by this weekend). I have a bunch of stuff selected and would like to try and bust it all. There are the regular items we bust but have added several new stuff i.e. 93 Topps Finest BB, 92 Bowman BB Jumbos, 82 and 83 Donruss BB, 98 Bowman Chrome FB and Bowmans Best (Manning, Ward Rc), and 2000 Topps Chrome and UD Black Diamond (Brady Rc). It's basically all baseball and football (good 80's run) with packs and boxes.

I also maybe able to add a 79/80 OPC hockey box. The cost would be about $350/pack.

I would like comments back on the following:

1.) Is there enough interest to bust the 79/80 OPC. Not to many boxes come up for sale anymore and with how we busted the 86 Fleer Bskt, I think this would sell out.
2.) Is there anything on the list below that we should eliminate or add to.

Type Sport Price-10% Price Box/Pack
1977 Topps Wax Box Baseball $1,000.00 $27.78 Pack
1980 Topps OPC Wax Box Baseball $270.00 $7.50 Pack
1980 Topps Cello Box Baseball $382.50 $15.94 Pack
1980 Topps Wax Box Baseball $355.50 $9.88 Pack
1981 Topps Cello Box Baseball $99.00 $4.13 Pack
1981 Topps Wax Case Baseball $1,800.00 $90.00 Box
1982 Donruss Wax Box Baseball $58.50 $1.63 Pack
1982 Fleer Cello Box Baseball $72.00 $3.00 Pack
1982 Fleer Wax Case Baseball $1,170.00 $58.50 Box
1982 Topps Wax Box Baseball $126.00 $3.50 Pack
1983 Donruss Wax Box Baseball $67.50 $1.88 Pack
1983 Fleer Cello Box Baseball $72.00 $3.00 Pack
1983 Topps Cello Box Baseball $126.00 $5.25 Pack
1984 Fleer Wax Box Baseball $67.50 $1.88 Pack
1984 Topps Rack 3 Box Case Baseball $225.00 $3.13 Rack
1984 Topps Cello Box Baseball $58.50 $2.44 Pack
1985 Donruss Rack Case Baseball $441.00 $6.13 Rack
1985 Fleer Cello Box Baseball $99.00 $4.13 Pack
1985 Topps Wax Box Baseball $71.10 $1.98 Pack
1989 UD Low Series Wax Box Baseball $81.00 $2.25 Pack
1992 Bowman Jumbo Wax Box Baseball $225.00 $6.25 Pack
1993 Topps Finest Box Baseball $265.50 $14.75 Pack
2001 Topps Traded Baseball $175.50 $7.31 Pack
1980 Topps Wax Box Football $121.50 $3.38 Pack
1981 Topps Wax Box Football $418.50 $11.63 Pack
1982 Topps Cello Box Football $157.50 $6.56 Pack
1982 Topps Wax Box Football $144.00 $4.00 Pack
1983 Topps Wax Box Football $72.00 $2.00 Pack
1984 Topps Wax Box Football $396.00 $11.00 Pack
1985 Topps Wax Box Football $175.50 $4.88 Pack
1986 Topps Wax Box Football $396.00 $11.00 Pack
1998 Bowman Chrome Wax Box Football $85.50 $3.56 Pack
1998 Bowmans Best Wax Box Football $90.00 $3.75 Pack
2000 Topps Chrome Wax Box Football $40.50 $1.69 Pack
2000 UD Black Diamond Wax Box Football $80.10 $3.34 Pack
1981 Topps Empire Strikes Back Non-Sport $85.50 $2.38 Pack

Mark

grote15 · October 25, 2012 8:36AM

I'd be in for 77-81 BB. Thanks, Mark!

wrighty · October 25, 2012 9:28AM

77-82 baseball

goraiders · October 25, 2012 9:42AM

I would be in on all fb.Missed the last 2.

PFB · October 25, 2012 9:46AM

I would vote for 81 Topps Basketball and 1976 Topps Football. Does Steve have a full box of 79-80 OPC Hockey? I know he has the PSA packs.

abcoltsfan · October 25, 2012 9:52AM

I am in for these:

1977 Topps Wax Box Baseball $1,000.00 $27.78 Pack
1980 Topps Cello Box Baseball $382.50 $15.94 Pack
1980 Topps Wax Box Baseball $355.50 $9.88 Pack
1981 Topps Cello Box Baseball $99.00 $4.13 Pack
1981 Topps Wax Case Baseball $1,800.00 $90.00 Box
1983 Topps Cello Box Baseball $126.00 $5.25 Pack
1981 Topps Wax Box Football $418.50 $11.63 Pack
1998 Bowman Chrome Wax Box Football $85.50 $3.56 Pack
1998 Bowmans Best Wax Box Football $90.00 $3.75 Pack

CubsFan41 · October 25, 2012 9:59AM

Nice selection to choose from. The opc hockey is too much for me. I would like to see some 77 -78- 79 Topps FB Cello's. What's up with
93 Finest? Is there one refractor per box or pack?

vettfanatic · October 25, 2012 10:07AM

I'd be up for pretty much everything except the 79 hockey.

Jeff

hockeycrazy · October 25, 2012 10:50AM

I love full boxes of baseball and football from the 1980-1985. Any chance of adding full boxes?

BruceinGa · October 25, 2012 11:06AM

I'm in for the early 80's baseball boxes

tmgrnzx9r · October 25, 2012 11:14AM

Mark,
Just a heads up on the 2000 Topps Chrome. Tom Brady is not in this product.
He is in Bowman Chrome just not topps chrome for that year.
You are good on the black diamond as he is in that.
Thanks for setting up yet another break!!!!!!!

mattinglymint23 · October 25, 2012 11:31AM

I'm in for the 77-81 bb and 84/86 fb
And the ESB!!!!

llafoe · October 25, 2012 11:32AM

1977 Topps Wax Box Baseball $1,000.00 $27.78 Pack
1980 Topps OPC Wax Box Baseball $270.00 $7.50 Pack
1980 Topps Cello Box Baseball $382.50 $15.94 Pack
1980 Topps Wax Box Baseball $355.50 $9.88 Pack
1981 Topps Cello Box Baseball $99.00 $4.13 Pack
1982 Topps Wax Box Baseball $126.00 $3.50 Pack
1983 Topps Cello Box Baseball $126.00 $5.25 Pack
1984 Topps Rack 3 Box Case Baseball $225.00 $3.13 Rack
1984 Topps Cello Box Baseball $58.50 $2.44 Pack
1985 Topps Wax Box Baseball $71.10 $1.98 Pack
1980 Topps Wax Box Football $121.50 $3.38 Pack
1981 Topps Wax Box Football $418.50 $11.63 Pack
1982 Topps Cello Box Football $157.50 $6.56 Pack
1982 Topps Wax Box Football $144.00 $4.00 Pack
1983 Topps Wax Box Football $72.00 $2.00 Pack
1984 Topps Wax Box Football $396.00 $11.00 Pack
1985 Topps Wax Box Football $175.50 $4.88 Pack
1986 Topps Wax Box Football $396.00 $11.00 Pack
1981 Topps Empire Strikes Back Non-Sport $85.50 $2.38 Pack

MantleFan23 · October 25, 2012 11:43AM

I'd be in for a box of the 81 topps baseball from the sealed case for sure. I did read on the bbce facebook page that they bought a bunch of 70s/80s wax so I wonder if he has anything interesting here? What about boxes of 84 topps football from a sealed case? I might be interested in one of those with the discount.

Look forward to another great rip!
Jeremy

PLEHR · October 25, 2012 11:45AM

How about adding the 1980/81 Topps Hockey Box?

esebille · October 25, 2012 12:39PM

Not to be the negative Nancy, but nothing overly exciting in this rip, seems we have depleted Steves inventory pretty good already, nothing in the way of basketball on the site. If I do the math there is a 3.5% chance of pulling a gretzky at $350 a pack the math does not add up unless you are buying a lottery ticket for a psa 10. I may jump in some of the 80's football but this will be a quiet rip for me, hard to follow those 75 cellos in the last one.

lightningboy · October 25, 2012 12:42PM

Yeah, i'd love a pack of the 79/80 OPC, but that is just too rich for my blood. I would definitely be interested in most everything else. Are there any other late '70's baseball or football in addition to '77 baseball?

grote15 · October 25, 2012 12:52PM

70s unopened product is really drying up...it may be disappointing that we don't have a wide selection to choose from, but the scarcity of authentic product is a good thing for unopened collectors!

flatfoot816 · October 25, 2012 7:22PM

here here Tim. Open up your vaults and Steve would have plenty to sell!!!!

DCanfield · October 25, 2012 7:37PM

Mark,
I'd be in for the 77 and 80 baseball and probably a 81 box

cincyredlegs · October 25, 2012 8:27PM

I am going to try and answer all questions/comments on one thread:

CubsFan41 - I believe it is one refractor/box on the 93 finest BB

hockeycrazy - It's probably not clear on my list (the formating from pasting from excel to the web page is horrible) but I have a case of 81 Topps BB wax and 82 Fleer BB wax.

tmgrnzx9r - Thanks for the heads up. I will remove from list.

MantleFan23 - The only wax boxes Steve has added was hockey.

esebille - I undersand. I talk to Steve pretty regularly. According to Steve, the pre-80's stuff is either not available or priced out of sight. Instead of buying by the truckload, he is buying by the box. It comes down to supply and demand. I know we have been ripping alot of the same stuff but at least it is popular items. It's either that or do group breaks every 6 months.

PLEHR - I can add that 80/81 Topps Hockey to the list.

I will remove the 79/80 OPC from the list. Does anyone have any interest in the following hockey boxes:

76/77 OPC
81/82 Topps
84/85 Topps
85/86 Topps
86/87 Topps
87/88 OPC
88/89 OPC

Also, the following cases could be added if there is enough interest:

81 Donruss BB - $34/box
81 Fleer BB - $32/box
82 Donruss BB - $61/box
84 Topps BB - $34/box
85 Topps BB - #72/box

Let me know what you think.

Mark

PFB · October 25, 2012 8:39PM

I would be interested in the 80's hockey you have listed if you could change them from Topps to OPC. There isn't much value in the Topps from those years.

Thanks for putting together another fantastic rip.

lightningboy · October 25, 2012 9:30PM

Are we gonna go with the same rules of 2 packs each at first? Also, when are you anticipating kicking this off? By the way, thanks again for beginning a new rip.

cincyredlegs · October 25, 2012 9:40PM

<< Are we gonna go with the same rules of 2 packs each at first? Also, when are you anticipating kicking this off? By the way, thanks again for beginning a new rip. >>

Yes, same rules as previous rips (2/packs per item for the 1st 48 hours, 2 more packs per item the next 48 hours and as many as you want after 96 hours). I am would like to kick off either Saturday or Sunday at 9:00 PM EST. We will have a lot of boxes to choose from.

Mark

EchoCanyon · October 25, 2012 10:24PM

Did 1989 UD go up in price? I though they were less than $2 last time.

1977 Topps Wax Box Baseball $1,000.00 $27.78 Pack
1980 Topps Cello Box Baseball $382.50 $15.94 Pack
1980 Topps Wax Box Baseball $355.50 $9.88 Pack
1981 Topps Cello Box Baseball $99.00 $4.13 Pack
1985 Topps Wax Box Baseball $71.10 $1.98 Pack
1989 UD Low Series Wax Box Baseball $81.00 $2.25 Pack

SleepyDave · October 25, 2012 10:46PM

I would be interested in the 80's hockey and a couple of baseball boxes.

miklia · October 25, 2012 10:46PM

selling out an 84 OPC box should be easy too. I'd also be down for the 81, 82, 83 OPC boxes.

cincyredlegs · October 25, 2012 10:47PM

<< Did 1989 UD go up in price? I though they were less than $2 last time.

1977 Topps Wax Box Baseball $1,000.00 $27.78 Pack
1980 Topps Cello Box Baseball $382.50 $15.94 Pack
1980 Topps Wax Box Baseball $355.50 $9.88 Pack
1981 Topps Cello Box Baseball $99.00 $4.13 Pack
1985 Topps Wax Box Baseball $71.10 $1.98 Pack
1989 UD Low Series Wax Box Baseball $81.00 $2.25 Pack >>

Yeah, they went up a little. I believe they were $1.88/pack the last two rips.

Mark

cincyredlegs · October 25, 2012 11:01PM

<< selling out an 84 OPC box should be easy too. I'd also be down for the 81, 82, 83 OPC boxes. >>

The only OPC boxes Steve has is:

76/77
87/88
88/89

The other boxes are regular Topps:

81/82
84/85
86/87

Mark

miklia · October 25, 2012 11:06PM

Ahh that's too bad, those are fun rips! he's still got the 81-84 on the site - are they all actually sold out?

wrongleg · October 25, 2012 11:15PM

Please add the 81 donruss and fleer. I vote for starting on Saturday night so that the 96 hour mark would be Wednesday night so we can close it out by Thursday sometime. This would allow payments on Friday and through the weekend possibly getting us our cards sooner. Thanks for organizing again!! :-)

custom352 · October 25, 2012 11:17PM

Can we also add some:

1989 Score Football $275-10% = 247.50/36 = $6.88 , lots of good RC (Sanders, Irving, D. Thomas, T. Thomas, Aikman, Woodson)
1991 Stadium Club Case $720-10%= 648/12= $54 , 12 boxes, Favre RC

lightningboy · October 25, 2012 11:23PM

I second the '89 Score football.

cincyredlegs · October 26, 2012 12:03AM

<< Ahh that's too bad, those are fun rips! he's still got the 81-84 on the site - are they all actually sold out? >>

Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. He does have OPC WAX PACKS of those years, just not wax boxes. I figured most people would want to rip from a full box.

Mark

cincyredlegs · October 26, 2012 12:07AM

<< Can we also add some:

1989 Score Football $275-10% = 247.50/36 = $6.88 , lots of good RC (Sanders, Irving, D. Thomas, T. Thomas, Aikman, Woodson)
1991 Stadium Club Case $720-10%= 648/12= $54 , 12 boxes, Favre RC >>

Yes, I will try and add the 89 Score FB. I must have overlooked it.

I thought Favre was in the Series 3 wax boxes.

Mark

mattinglymint23 · October 26, 2012 12:13AM

Thanks for setting this up, Mark.
What's the rule on the 81 case break? 1/person?

BruceinGa · October 26, 2012 12:31AM

I wasn't here for the previous Group Break. Would you mind posting the rules for me?
thanx

custom352 · October 26, 2012 1:18AM

I thought Favre was in the Series 3 wax boxes.

1991 Stadium Club is a single series with the Favre RC
1992 Stadium Club is in 3 series with the Favre card in the 3rd Series (This is a rarer card than his RC though)

cincyredlegs · October 26, 2012 2:11AM

<< Thanks for setting this up, Mark.
What's the rule on the 81 case break? 1/person? >>

Mark,

Yes, it would be 1 box/person using the same timeframe rules.

Custom352 - We can try and do the Stadium Club FB as well.

BruceinGa - You can look up the past breaks (type in Official 2012 BBCE PSA Group Break #10 - Group Rip Closed. TIME TO PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in the search field.) It will show you all th rules. But in a nutshell, you can reserve 2 packs (or 1 box if there is a case break) for the first 48 hours. After 48 hours you can reserve 2 additional packs/1 box. After 96 hours, you can reserve as much as you want. Once all the packs/boxes are sold out, you will call BBCE to pay or pay via paypal.

Mark

Mefer · October 26, 2012 2:24AM

I am sure I will participate with primary interest on my end being 77 to 81 baseball.

Matt

Time4aGansett · October 26, 2012 5:18AM

Mark, one thing to consider for us East coast guys is the pending hurricane landfall. We may lose power for days, and not be able to participate. Not trying to rush the start, just wanted to make sure that is factored.

cincyredlegs · October 26, 2012 6:23AM

<< Mark, one thing to consider for us East coast guys is the pending hurricane landfall. We may lose power for days, and not be able to participate. Not trying to rush the start, just wanted to make sure that is factored. >>

That's a good point. I haven't heard yet if it was going to actually make landfall yet. I was going to start it tomorrow night. Do you think this would work?

Mark

Dty · October 26, 2012 6:30AM

I would be up for starting it tonight to make sure the East Coast folks can get in. But I will certainly work with whatever is decided.
Thanks for lining this up again, Mark.

mattinglymint23 · October 26, 2012 6:34AM

Sandy is due to make landfall Sunday evening. I'll be in garage baling water according to NJ newscasts.

cincyredlegs · October 26, 2012 6:45AM

Guys,

I am not going to be able to get the rip going tonight unfortunatly. I just emailed Steve the list of what we want to bust and it is a big lot (only $12K but 88 boxes and 72 racks). I am going to try and get the rip going tomorrow night at 9:00 pm EST. That should give everyone at least 24 hours to reserve packs in case the storm does make landfall. Let me know your thoughts. We can always push out till next weekend as well. Below is the list of what we are going to rip:

Type Sport Price-10% Price Box/Pack
1977 Topps Wax Box Baseball $1,000.00 $27.78 Pack
1980 Topps OPC Wax Box Baseball $270.00 $7.50 Pack
1980 Topps Cello Box Baseball $382.50 $15.94 Pack
1980 Topps Wax Box Baseball $355.50 $9.88 Pack
1981 Topps Cello Box Baseball $99.00 $4.13 Pack
1981 Topps Wax Case Baseball $1,800.00 $90.00 Box
1982 Donruss Wax Box Baseball $58.50 $1.63 Pack
1982 Fleer Cello Box Baseball $72.00 $3.00 Pack
1982 Fleer Wax Case Baseball $1,170.00 $58.50 Box
1982 Topps Wax Box Baseball $126.00 $3.50 Pack
1983 Donruss Wax Box Baseball $67.50 $1.88 Pack
1983 Fleer Cello Box Baseball $72.00 $3.00 Pack
1983 Topps Cello Box Baseball $126.00 $5.25 Pack
1984 Fleer Wax Box Baseball $67.50 $1.88 Pack
1984 Topps Rack 3 Box Case Baseball $225.00 $3.13 Rack
1984 Topps Cello Box Baseball $58.50 $2.44 Pack
1985 Donruss Rack Case Baseball $441.00 $6.13 Rack
1985 Fleer Cello Box Baseball $99.00 $4.13 Pack
1985 Topps Wax Box Baseball $71.10 $1.98 Pack
1989 UD Low Series Wax Box Baseball $81.00 $2.25 Pack
1992 Bowman Jumbo Wax Box Baseball $225.00 $6.25 Pack
1993 Topps Finest Box Baseball $265.50 $14.75 Pack
2001 Topps Traded Baseball $175.50 $7.31 Pack
1980 Topps Wax Box Football $121.50 $3.38 Pack
1981 Topps Wax Box Football $418.50 $11.63 Pack
1982 Topps Cello Box Football $157.50 $6.56 Pack
1982 Topps Wax Box Football $144.00 $4.00 Pack
1983 Topps Wax Box Football $72.00 $2.00 Pack
1984 Topps Wax Box Football $396.00 $11.00 Pack
1985 Topps Wax Box Football $175.50 $4.88 Pack
1986 Topps Wax Box Football $396.00 $11.00 Pack
1989 Score Wax Box Football $247.50 $6.88 Pack
1991 Stadium Club Wax Case Football $648.00 $54.00 Box
1998 Bowman Chrome Wax Box Football $85.50 $3.56 Pack
1998 Bowmans Best Wax Box Football $90.00 $3.75 Pack
2000 UD Black Diamond Wax Box Football $80.10 $3.34 Pack
1980/81 Topps Hockey Hockey $472.50 $13.13 Pack
1987/88 OPC Hockey Hockey $360.00 $7.50 Pack
1988/89 OPC Hockey Hockey $315.00 $6.56 Pack
1981 Topps Empire Strikes Back Non-Sport $85.50 $2.38 Pack

Mark

Time4aGansett · October 26, 2012 7:10AM

Forgot to add I would be interested in 1 each of these.

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Also, the following cases could be added if there is enough interest:

81 Donruss BB - $34/box
81 Fleer BB - $32/box
82 Donruss BB - $61/box
84 Topps BB - $34/box
85 Topps BB - #72/box

Let me know what you think.

Mark >>

cincyredlegs · October 26, 2012 9:29AM

<< Forgot to add I would be interested in 1 each of these.

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Also, the following cases could be added if there is enough interest:

81 Donruss BB - $34/box
81 Fleer BB - $32/box
82 Donruss BB - $61/box
84 Topps BB - $34/box
85 Topps BB - #72/box

Let me know what you think.

I asked about the following:

81 Donruss BB - $34/box
81 Fleer BB - $32/box
82 Donruss BB - $61/box
84 Topps BB - $34/box

I think we can sell these out pretty quickly. If we get enough interest, we can add the 85 wax case as well.

Mark

Mark >>

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azyankeefan · October 26, 2012 9:45AM

I have always loved reading the threads about these group rips and seeing the great scans of some of the pulls. I hope to take part in my first group rip with this one.

cincyredlegs · October 26, 2012 10:48PM

Hey Guys,

I am going to postpone the break until next Saturday night at 9:00 PM EST. The storm looks pretty nasty for the east coast guys. I have emailed Steve the list of what we want. He is just confirming he has everything. I will post the full list of what we will rip this weekend so everyone can figure out what they want. Sorry for getting everyone worked up just to postpone for a week.

Mark

grote15 · October 27, 2012 2:29AM

I think that's the best choice right now, Mark...too much going on to worry about cards at the moment. I hope everyone in Sandy's path rides this out with minimal or no damage!

1all · October 30, 2012 10:10AM

Hey Mark, looks like Steve has added a 78 cello box (baseball) to his inventory and it's got group break written all over it. What does everyone think? Should be $27 a pack.

Doug

Group Break Choices.....Please Read!!!!- Break Will Go Live on Thursday 11/08

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