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What caused this unnatural surface on a 1921 Peace $1???

mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,231 ✭✭✭✭✭
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The surfaces of this Peace dollar are clearly not normal. Look closely at the fields - they look like the skin of a lizard. I have my suspicions, but would appreciate opinions from the experts.

TIA

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https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,540 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As near as I can guess : MAN

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As near as I can guess : MAN >>



    image
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  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,231 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i><< As near as I can guess : MAN >> >>



    OK, we've established the guilty species, how about a little more insight into what technique this man or woman used that resulted in these surfaces?

    mbogoman

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    https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i><< As near as I can guess : MAN >> >>



    OK, we've established the guilty species, how about a little more insight into what technique this man or woman used that resulted in these surfaces? >>



    Well it wasn't polished or harshly cleaned....

    So I'd like to take a shot at silver tarnish removal paste applied with a soft sponge.
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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    The surfaces looked etched. Almost as if a lemon slice laid on top for a period of time.
    The acid could have caused this effect... Hard to tell, really, only the culprit knows for sure.
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  • phnataccphnatacc Posts: 367 ✭✭
    Harsh or repeated dip and soda cleaning.
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭✭
    Just a victim of one-too-many bad dips, IMHO. Whatever is going on in the fields definitely occurred post-Mint - it's probably the result of the acidic solution used for dipping eating away at the Silver.
    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I actually LIKE those surfaces...

    Not for a premium though.
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • cucamongacoincucamongacoin Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭
    While it does look cleaned, that "scaley" look is often found on 1924 dated coins in particular.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,540 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm no expert. But my perceptions tell me that the coin was cleaned as previously noted. A harsh cleaning. Then it sat somewhere with some foreign substance or substances coming in contact with it for an extended period in order for it to have a "new skin". That's how my mind perceives this one.

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  • SmallTownCoinsSmallTownCoins Posts: 688 ✭✭
    looks like it was put in a rock tumbler with silica sand..
    Lots of mail order company's do that...
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  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>looks like it was put in a rock tumbler with silica sand..
    Lots of mail order company's do that... >>



    Why?
    Becky
  • SmallTownCoinsSmallTownCoins Posts: 688 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>looks like it was put in a rock tumbler with silica sand..
    Lots of mail order company's do that... >>



    Why? >>



    Makes them look new and shiney ....
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  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Oh, got it.
    Becky
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭



    << <i> well it wasn't polished or harshly cleaned....

    So I'd like to take a shot at silver tarnish removal paste applied with a soft sponge. >>



    image or close enough.

    The first edition of Van Allen-Mallis (1973?) recommended baking soda treatment so variety diagnostics were more easily viewable. Things change much?

    A pity; hell of a strong strike for the issue.
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i> well it wasn't polished or harshly cleaned....

    So I'd like to take a shot at silver tarnish removal paste applied with a soft sponge. >>



    image or close enough.

    The first edition of Van Allen-Mallis (1973?) recommended baking soda treatment so variety diagnostics were more easily viewable. Things change much?

    A pity; hell of a strong strike for the issue. >>




    Gee Colonel,

    with advice like that perhaps Malice and not Mallis? image Just kidding, I'm sure there was no bad intent. I recall when that book was the rage. I was a tiny collector..

    Best wishes,
    Eric
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>While it does look cleaned, that "scaley" look is often found on 1924 dated coins in particular. >>



    image...and I don't think anything was done to it.
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    [The first edition of Van Allen-Mallis (1973?) recommended baking soda treatment so variety diagnostics were more easily viewable...

    Just kidding, I'm sure there was no bad intent. ..... >>




    I was a tiny collector then too.

    No bad intent whatsoever. Most VAMs are common dates and were virtually bullion at the time.

    Actually my remark about baking soda was incomplete. It was recommended that the coin be dipped and subsequently soda'd (applied with a toothbrush!) to neutralize the dip.

    Loads of stuff I remember from the seventies actually is true and accurate. This could one of those instances.image
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell

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