Bust Half Collectors...

thecoinlook

Coin listed on eBay...

It's not mine. It's an R4 by my latest book.
Not sure what this coin is worth, if it's worth it...?
The last Heritage example was 5+ years ago.

coin22lover

What Overton number is that? 1809's are quite difficult to attribute. An R4 in that condition really isn't worth a premium...perhaps 10% if you're lucky.

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BustHalfBrian

I think that die state is late enough for it to be considered an O.109b, but I'm not sure if the presence of the die break on the middle arrow tip is necessary for a 'b'. If so, it's only an O.109a, which is only an R2.

Someone else here will be able to provide you with a clearer answer. I'm only an amateur.

Either way, it's still the scarcer "III Edge" variety. But for the asking price, I'd probably pass. If you were certain it'd get in our host's holder (w/ a numeric grade) - and I have my doubts it would - then it might be worth a bid.

harveypb

Looks like the O.109A to me... R2

Looks like a nice original piece.

thecoinlook

I figured the cracking would be far enough to warrant the B... but glad I posted. If it were a B in that grade, would you have a rough estimate as to the value?

johnny9434

nice die crack. it looks nice from here

LindeDad

That coin looks messed with to me the shield is just too crisp for the amount of wear on the coin.

JRocco

For those not into varieties in the CBH series.
Here are a couple of examples of the "a" die state. For those that may not follow this series, the "a" die state is an earlier state of the dies before they advanced, or in some cases deteriorated to the next, the "b" die state. Each die state has it's own rarity level, some with very different population numbers.
In the "a" die state there is the obvious crack thru AMERICA and what looks like raised segments between the letters that continue down past the last A and along the points of the arrowheads.


Here is the "b" die state. What separates the "b" die state from the "a" die state is on the reverse the die break thru AMERICA gets heavier and shows broken patches at the arrowheads, this crack extends along the base of 50C and then across the tips of the leaves to the edge below the wing tip. The crack extends along the legend to above the F in OF.

lkeigwin

Excellent, John! A very informative post of key differences in the die state. Love the pictures.

FWIW, I am not enamored with the ebay coin. I don't think it's original, and I think it wouldn't grade cleanly.
Lance.