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In your opinion should this be part of the "Bobby Clarke master set"?
This is just an example, trying to figure out what is acceptable for my many "Master sets". I have not submited these in the past but I see other Master sets with this type of card, so I'm looking for your opinion. Thanks!

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  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    is that him on the front with the C patch?

    if it is then yes.

    if it isnt i dont think it should be, but its not me or others here you have to get to go along. that would be the people at the set registry. there "rules" suggest that this card would not be allowed if he isnt pictured. just as regular checklists arent allowed unless the player has a picture on it.
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  • firedawg45firedawg45 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭
    yes it would be in the master set as long as he is pictured.
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  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭
    It would be in a Billy Smith Master set, too.


  • << <i>It would be in a Billy Smith Master set, too. >>



    I don't see his name on the back. So it wouldn't.
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good luck with getting it added.

    PSA has denied this card from BOTH the Killebrew and Oliva sets.

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    There are MANY cards like this in the registry, why stop now?

    Joe
    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • georgebailey2georgebailey2 Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>It would be in a Billy Smith Master set, too. >>



    I don't see his name on the back. So it wouldn't. >>



    That is Chico Resch on the card. I am pretty sure he played all the games after replacing Smith after game 3 of the Pittsburgh series.

    Edit to add:

    Suprised to see Wayne Stephenson with an assist. He played the first 2 games of the series after Parent took a shot to the knee in warm-ups of game 1. I was at that game and Stephenson shut them out.

    To the answer below: Since Clarke's stats appear, I suppose it would count, but Resch's would not as it only includes offensive statistics.
  • To be added to the Master set the player pictured on the front of the card must have his stats on the back of the card.
  • If you check out my Gilbert Perreault Master Set, you will see that I have recently gotten four cards similar to your Clarke one added to the Perreault Master Set.

    In order for the cards to be added, it must have a picture of the player in question, and the player's name must be listed on the front or back of the card. [There is no requirement to have stats listed.]

    Basically, think of it like this - team cards can be added....because it meets both criteria (assuming there is a checklist on the back).

    Also, do NOT be surprised if you try to add this card and it gets rejected. In the PSA database, that card will be listed as a PLAYOFF card with no mention of Clarke. So it WILL get denied. But when you get the denial message, send a follow up message and include a scan of the front AND back of the card...pointing out where the name is listed and where the player is pictured. And then it will be added. I am four for four in getting cards added to the Master Set, after initially being denied.

    With my three Perreault cards (1973 OPC #191 Quarter Finals; 1973 Topps #191 Quarter Finals; 1975 OPC #3 Semi Finals; 1975 Topps #3 Semi Finals).

    This is very recent information, as all cards were added to the Master Set in August 2012.

    Note that PSA's rules involving what qualifies for Master Sets has changed over time, thus leading to confusion.

    But recently, customer service has been VERY CLEAR about what they will add: any card where the player is pictured and the name is found anywhere on the card.

    I hope you find this helpful.


  • << <i>Good luck with getting it added.

    PSA has denied this card from BOTH the Killebrew and Oliva sets.

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    There are MANY cards like this in the registry, why stop now?

    Joe >>



    Assuming neither Killebrew nor Oliva are named on this card, it will be denied from the Master Set. Having a picture of the player and the name is required.

    If you point out a card on a master set that was formerly added and which does not meet this requirement, PSA will remove it from the Master Set.

    That happened to me by accident; I didn't realize customer service would go in and remove things.

  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That is Chico Resch on the card. >>

    I see that, now. I was assuming that the "3" from Smith's "31" was hidden on the sweater's sleeve. Apologies.
  • So, Player pictured+name somewhere on card=OK
    Will submit some cards, thanks for the input guys. I know that PSA will make the final decision but I wanted to see what you guys (and gals) thought!


  • << <i>If you check out my Gilbert Perreault Master Set, you will see that I have recently gotten four cards similar to your Clarke one added to the Perreault Master Set.

    In order for the cards to be added, it must have a picture of the player in question, and the player's name must be listed on the front or back of the card. [There is no requirement to have stats listed.]

    Basically, think of it like this - team cards can be added....because it meets both criteria (assuming there is a checklist on the back).

    Also, do NOT be surprised if you try to add this card and it gets rejected. In the PSA database, that card will be listed as a PLAYOFF card with no mention of Clarke. So it WILL get denied. But when you get the denial message, send a follow up message and include a scan of the front AND back of the card...pointing out where the name is listed and where the player is pictured. And then it will be added. I am four for four in getting cards added to the Master Set, after initially being denied.

    With my three Perreault cards (1973 OPC #191 Quarter Finals; 1973 Topps #191 Quarter Finals; 1975 OPC #3 Semi Finals; 1975 Topps #3 Semi Finals).

    This is very recent information, as all cards were added to the Master Set in August 2012.

    Note that PSA's rules involving what qualifies for Master Sets has changed over time, thus leading to confusion.

    But recently, customer service has been VERY CLEAR about what they will add: any card where the player is pictured and the name is found anywhere on the card.

    I hope you find this helpful. >>



    This whole tread started because of the cards I seen in your Perreault master set, it makes sense, just didn't think they would accept them.
  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On the subject of adding items to the PSA master set registry, this thread has discussed qualifications as the card picturing the player and also mentioning his name somewhere. What about cards of a specific player who went on to manage or coach? Can coaching cards be added to a player registry? If not, why not? They make more sense to me for inclusion since they would be issued in a year that that player was active in the game in some way or another, more so than it does for a modern/current card being issued in some insert set even though the player retired many years before its issuance.

    Just wondering about this, since I have some coaching cards I would submit for grading only if they would in turn be eligible to be added to a master set registry for completion's sake; otherwise, I would not bother sending them in.

    Thank you.
  • Based on the text below, I do not think PSA will add cards from non-playing years (i.e. coach, manager, GM, etc.). Although I have never explored this avenue personally, so it's just my guess. My belief is that the "rules" for master sets are constantly evolving. My best advice for you is to contact a PSA customer service person and to make your best case. I don't think you'll succeed, in this case. But then again, I didn't think I would either and I was wrong on that count. Good luck.

    Player Sets:
    In general, player sets consist of cards for that player which were manufactured during the player's play years. Exceptions: Many companies produce cards for players the year after the player has retired. These cards, with or without stats, issued the year following retirement are meant to depict the player’s previous season. In addition, there are a few vintage sets that may list one or two cards well past the play years. These cards are allowed due to their extreme popularity. For example, in the Babe Ruth Basic Set, the 1948 Leaf is listed even though Ruth retired in 1935. Player sets in the miscellaneous sports and non-sports categories may include post-retirement dated cards due to limited availability of play years cards.

    Source: http://www.psacard.com/PSASetRegistry/setrequests.html
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