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VINTAGE CARDS WITH TILTS!!!!!

cardcollector2000cardcollector2000 Posts: 152
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Why would anybody buy a high grade vintage with this problem this defect in my opinion is far worse then haveing a crease or a soft corner. unless the card is l something extremly rare. my advise anybody thinking of a high grade vintage purchase check the centering for tilts. This defect in my opinion makes a card very hard to resell and it is just so hard on the eyes .

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd agree that tilts are distracting visually, but there are many collectors out there not as bothered by it and will bid accordingly for the grade regardless.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • cardcollector2000cardcollector2000 Posts: 152
    grote15. those people that are buying these tilted cards are wasting there money and dont even know it. buying the holder and not the card. If i had a grading company any card with tilts are would never grade higher then a 6 and if its a bad tilt its going to grade a 4 or 5 and i dont care how perfect the rest of the card is.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>grote15. those people that are buying these tilted cards are wasting there money and dont even know it. buying the holder and not the card. If i had a grading company any card with tilts are would never grade higher then a 6 and if its a bad tilt its going to grade a 4 or 5 and i dont care how perfect the rest of the card is. >>



    That's your opinion, but as I said, not all collectors feel that way.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


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    << <i>grote15. those people that are buying these tilted cards are wasting there money and dont even know it. buying the holder and not the card. If i had a grading company any card with tilts are would never grade higher then a 6 and if its a bad tilt its going to grade a 4 or 5 and i dont care how perfect the rest of the card is. >>



    That's your opinion, but as I said, not all collectors feel that way. >>



    Wait... we all get to have our own opinions? image
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>grote15. those people that are buying these tilted cards are wasting there money and dont even know it. buying the holder and not the card. If i had a grading company any card with tilts are would never grade higher then a 6 and if its a bad tilt its going to grade a 4 or 5 and i dont care how perfect the rest of the card is. >>



    That's your opinion, but as I said, not all collectors feel that way. >>



    Wait... we all get to have our own opinions? image >>



    Not sure...but we can always start a poll to decide..image


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Mdube16Mdube16 Posts: 744 ✭✭
    cardcollector2000....you are wrong. Tilts arent a problem at all and have little to no effect on a vintage cards value. Lack of creasing is the most important thing, followed by sharp corners. Centering and Registration are next and last comes tilt. These are not my opninions but facts and I know this because I have collected for a long time, have many valuable cards.
  • NVbaseballNVbaseball Posts: 572


    << <i>This defect in my opinion makes a card very hard to resell and it is just so hard on the eyes . >>



    I could resell them very easily
  • Foo3112Foo3112 Posts: 1,961
    Maybe altcollector is trying to work down the price of the Mantle to then try and sell it himself on his ebay
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    Does this picture have a tilt?

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  • Foo3112Foo3112 Posts: 1,961
    Joey must have had a long night with his Coronas since he was posting on every thread here past midnight.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    oh. my glasses fogged up. i kinda noticed the capital "L" in TILTS, then. the excitement wore off.
  • jeff8877jeff8877 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭
    OK...so here is one with a tilt. How do you guys feel about it...maybe a little is fine? This card is extremely difficult to find centered.

    Jeff

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  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096
    The longer I collect, the more tilted cards bug the crap out of me. I have found that it's pretty much impossible to avoid tilts completely when putting vintage sets together, but I have done a pretty good job of minimizing them in my collection over the last couple of years.

    The Snider example that Jeff posted above represents the absolute limit of tilt that I might be able to live with for a high-dollar card in my collection.... IF it is a super nice card in all other aspects (which that card appears to be). But even a tiny bit more tilt than that, and I'd have to sell it regardless of how nice it was otherwise.


    I sold a '67 Clemente PSA 8 earlier this year that was clean and centered very well- except I decided I just couldn't tolerate the tilt. I still have not found a replacement.
    'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.'
    -CDs Nuts, 1/20/14

    *1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
    *Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
  • calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭
    Tilts do bother me , but with low pop 9's for my 66 Topps set , sometimes its par for the coarse . I look at some of them and think " Wow someone is kidding someone ".

    I have upgraded visually some of them as other better looking ones have popped up . ---- Sonny
    " In a time of universal deceit , telling the truth is a revolutionary act " --- George Orwell
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    I'm anti bad tilts the way I'm...

    anti bad corners,
    anti bad edges,
    anti bad centering
    anti bad surface/registration

  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,126 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Try finding a 1969 Seaver that doesn't have a tilt. I've seen two or three in the past 25 years.
    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
  • brendanb438brendanb438 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭
    So we have Joey back again under two alias of cardcollector2000 and deaddead it looks like. Where the hell are the MODs? Can we get another round of ALT ID bannings please.

    Hey Joey I hope your sales of comics on eBay are going well. As well as they can go with me getting you banned and blacklist throughout the Comic Book Community.

    Was a lot of talk about you at the NYCC this past weekend. Some of the bigger dealers in the industry are making sure to avoid you at all costs.
  • cardcollector2000cardcollector2000 Posts: 152
    hhahahah
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,170 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tilts and off centered cards were always cards that I stayed away from. I would much rather have a card with a soft corner or two that is well centered, but thats just me.
  • mygottamygotta Posts: 1,652
    pulled this from a Heritage box today. It was a box topper buy back. I have yet to see a nice 63 from these buy backs

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  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭


    << <i>grote15. those people that are buying these tilted cards are wasting there money and dont even know it. buying the holder and not the card. If i had a grading company any card with tilts are would never grade higher then a 6 and if its a bad tilt its going to grade a 4 or 5 and i dont care how perfect the rest of the card is. >>



    Then start your own grading company.

    While I agree tilts are not attractive and I try to avoid them
    when buying, what's worse to me is out of focus cards. You see many
    of them residing in 8 and 9 holders all the time. Why would anyone
    buy a card that's a double vision card and pay top dollar for it?
    To me, that's wasting money and if I had a grading company any card
    with focus issues would never grade higher than 6.

    I think I should start my own grading company....... then again these are
    just pictures of men so who really cares.
  • mcadamsmcadams Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭
    The tilt on the Snider doesn't bother me at all.
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  • Topps29Topps29 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭
    If you buy for eye appeal, then centering with a "Tilt" is very important...
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