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the unique specimen, 8x7 1797 dollar!
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Unfortunately, I missed this "8x7"! Undoubtedly, it was intriguing.
I did recently examine the finest known 9x7 Small Letters and I wrote about 1797 dollars of all three die pairings in various states of preservation.
U.S. Silver Dollars of 1797
Those interested in a 1797-8x7 may also wish to read about an 1805 silver dollar.
1805 Silver Dollar Revealed in 2008
<< <i>Unfortunately, I missed this "8x7"! Undoubtedly, it was intriguing. >>
intriguing/disgusting - dealer's choice
would have really enjoyed seeing that condition census 9x7 S.L. !
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get it while it is hot
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So hot, it's not there
The 1805 in Greg's very authoritative article is not unique.
Last decade a West Coast auction firm sold (identified) Chinese counterfeits of 1804 and 1805 dollars with a US provenance going back 3/4 of a century (Neil?)
IIRC the 1804 brought $8000 and 1805 $5000 even though the 1805 was nicer and (considered at the time) unique.
Lance Newman: <<would have really enjoyed seeing that condition census 9x7 S.L. !>>
It is not just in the condition census. It seems to be the finest known 1797-SL, by far. Please read the quoted statement by Logies and my interpretation of the coin itself.
U.S. Silver Dollars of 1797
Col. Jessup: The 1805 in Greg's very authoritative article is not unique.
The one that I wrote about has a much better back-story. Please read the historical details. A Chinese Emperor is quoted regarding the relevant King of Siam.
1805 Silver Dollar Revealed in 2008
TDN: <<I enjoyed all of Analyst's Newman articles - in particular the one about the four gem early dollars >>
I appreciate the positive remarks. All my articles regarding the Newman Collection may be accessed for free.
The Fabulous Eric Newman Coin Collection, part 8: Draped Bust, Heraldic Eagle Half Dollars
The Fabulous Eric Newman Collection, Part 7: Gem Quality Early U.S. Silver Dollars
The Fabulous Eric Newman Collection, part 6: Auction Results for silver U.S. Coins
The Fabulous Eric Newman Coin Collection, part 5: 1796 U.S. Half Dollars
<< <i>Is it possible the 1797 is a pattern? .
The 1805 in Greg's very authoritative article is not unique.
Last decade a West Coast auction firm sold (identified) Chinese counterfeits of 1804 and 1805 dollars with a US provenance going back 3/4 of a century (Neil?)
IIRC the 1804 brought $8000 and 1805 $5000 even though the 1805 was nicer and (considered at the time) unique. >>
Cardinal made a post in this thread (first page, halfway down) with a picture of both sides of the 1805 dollar. The 1805 brought I think $9K hammer at the auction. A coin I would love to own, but not at that price.
Halfway down first page
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
The speculations about geopolitical implications of the presentation sets might seem a bit "ripe" to some.
The take of some eminent students of the history of the time was that the British had already gotten enough of an foothold (une entrée avec la Chinois in secret diplomatic records of that time by yet another interested observer) with their ever-burgeoning "You smoke our opium, we'll drink your tea" operation to disrupt the political connections such a lucrative commercial bond had forged. Some thought must also be given to the undercurrents of the frictions in the oft-tested Chinese/Vietnamese relationship with a soupcon of Gallic fusion. .
However, consider the impact upon Yul Brynner AKA Mongkut I. In the process of consolidating the foundation of his dynasty within Siam, he receives a special sign of favor and recognition by a great foreign power. His son Mongkut II was so enamored of this American connection, and so mindful of the existential threat of rebellion, that he offered a large number of war elephants to President Lincoln for use in that generation's battle.
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get it while it is hot
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So hot, it's not there >>
no worries, here is another just for you
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