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Ryan 8, FAIL

Solid 8

I love seeing cards like this and the 1973 Frank Howard 8 that is currently on Ebay. I get cards back that are graded 7 and I shake my head because I can't see why it couldn't pull an 8 then I see a gem like this.
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  • BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yikes! PSA centering standards for 9 is 65-35. Don't think that one qualifies. Love the double fish eyes on the pitcher logo too.
    Daniel
  • calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭
    Wow , the first thought was fugly---- Sonny
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is pretty bad...should be a 6 at best without a qualifier..


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  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,560 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ugly beast.
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  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Howard

    Wow both these are bad but the Howard is way worse IMO.
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  • Wow,

    Hard to imagine how that Ryan got an 8, especially compared to other PSA 8s that are bordering on perfection and PSA 7s that are very solid cards.

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  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926
    I agree with everyone else, I don't see how those got straight 8's?
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  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭✭
    That Ryan is just silly. That Frank Howard is just beyond belief. That's some sort of mechanical error. That was supposed to be an 8 O/C.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,126 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What Mickey said. I think they are mechanical errors. PSA went through a big bout of them around the time these were graded (at least I hope this is the excuse). I remember seeing a 1968 Bob Gibson that was graded 'MINT 7' around the era these were graded. That '73 Howard is a tough card to find centered. We can deduct 1 from the legit PSA 8 population of that card.
  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    These kind of cards should be taken off the market and given their o/c qualifiers
    kiss of death grade.

    That Howard is the worst I've seen in a 'straight 8'. Obvious mechanical errors.
  • As an avid 73 collector....that sickens me.
  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭✭
    Yikees.

    the Ryan has bids on it. buy the card not the case.
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  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    That is ridiculous. I agree.
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yikes! PSA centering standards for 9 is 65-35. Don't think that one qualifies. Love the double fish eyes on the pitcher logo too. >>



    What is the general rule of thumb for grading cards with those fish eyes on them? Does 1 typically knock it off of a 10? What about 2-3? I am debating sending some cards in that have one or two.

    In particular, I have a Rickey Henderson RC that has one. Other than that, it's a blazer
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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,388 ✭✭✭✭✭
    See now why wouldnt PSA buy these cards? If there was a huge issue like others said happend where there were several Technical issues and what not. This isnt a Mint 7. Ins a legit PSA 8 case with a Terrible card in it.
    PSA needs to buy these cards.
  • MeferMefer Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Yikes! PSA centering standards for 9 is 65-35. Don't think that one qualifies. Love the double fish eyes on the pitcher logo too. >>



    What is the general rule of thumb for grading cards with those fish eyes on them? Does 1 typically knock it off of a 10? What about 2-3? I am debating sending some cards in that have one or two.

    In particular, I have a Rickey Henderson RC that has one. Other than that, it's a blazer >>



    Let me preface my comments by saying I am not an expert. With the disclaimer out of the way:

    Based on my experience, fish eyes sometimes bother PSA and sometimes do not. To that end, I have been unable to gain a strong feeling on them from the grader's perspective. I am left with the impression that there is not one and that simply the fish eye will have to be taken into consideration when considering the overall appeal of the card. Given that, I generally avoid grading commons with fisheyes but will still send in stars with fisheyes if they otherwise appear to meet the grade I am shooting for. If I had a Henderson rookie with a fisheye that otherwise appears to be a blazer, I would send it in no questions asked. For $5.00 it is worth the gamble. Depending on the placement of the fisheye, you could get a lower grade or a PD qualifier but that may make it a crack and resubmit.

    In the end, simply ask yourself "how does the card with the fisheye look from an overall appeal viewpoint"?
  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭
    Junk ! It really makes one wonder sometime.
    Tony(AN ANGEL WATCHES OVER ME)
  • PSASAPPSASAP Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭
    Wow, makes you wonder if the cards are graded by looking at the reflection off of a funhouse mirror.
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