1982 Wrestling All Stars BGS 9.5 Andre The Giant on EBAY...Update: Wrestling Card Record Price $2,87

Dpeck100

Andre The Giant BGS 9.5 on EBAY



This card is really starting to heat up.

Big80s

Well over $2k, at the moment. How high do you expect this to go, D?

DavidPuddy

9.5 on centering?
Um, ok.

ldferg

<< <i>9.5 on centering?
Um, ok. >>



I was thinking the same thing. Looks like its going for big money.

Dpeck100

No clue where this ends but I would bet higher from here.

I too agree that the centering grade is a mystery but it is still a very sharp card and will make someone happy with it in the holder it is in.

If they are buying it to cross it that would not be wise.

I am excited to see a wrestling card getting this much interest and I am anxious to see how this auction plays out for sure.

brian26

<< <i>9.5 on centering?
Um, ok. >>



It's off top-to-bottom, correct?

KNAPP

I'm guessing 3k. Very nice card. This is the nicest 1982 Andre that I have ever seen. The last PSA 9 that sold on ebay should have only been an 8. The lower left side had a ding that should have prevented it from getting a 9.

Dpeck100

Here is my PSA 9.

vladguerrero

BGS is clearly the grader of choice for this set, now.

eagles33

I have a psa 7 available if anyone is looking for this card but does not want to drop huge money ona high grade one. Pm me if anyone is interested

hookem

<< <i>9.5 on centering?
Um, ok. >>



I am good with the 9.5 on centering. 9 at worst. I think on this card the centering appears worse than it actually is due to the top right hand "banner" corner. To me these cards give an illusion of being more o/c top to bottom than they actually are due to the design. I would be interested in a pixel count from the top right hand corner to the bottom center.

Dpeck100

Here is a BGS 8.5 crack out. It had a tiny wrinkle on the back that BGS missed. This has Gem Mint centering for a 82 yellow card.


The centering grade on the Andre The Giant card is consistent with many BGS graded Wrestling All Stars.

NHLfightguy

I like dpeck PSA 9 better. Dpeck you ever see Andre card ever with good centering t/b?

KNAPP

With numbers like these, big auction houses are going to take notice and start offering wrestling cards and memorabilia in their premier auctions, instead of putting them on the back page. I think in about two years we will see a huge jump in the wrestling market and Andre will be the Babe Ruth of the wrestling collections.

mcadams

Earlier poster raised a good point about T/Bentering being misleading due to the ribbon. But which point would you measure to determine good or bad?

On the bottom, you'd obviously measure the gap between the lowest part of the belt (under "The") and the bottom edge of the card.

But on the top, are you measuring the top edge of the card to the highest center point on the top ribbon (right above the "G") or are you measuring the highest actual point on the ribbon, which would be the top right corner. I think these two approaches would give you two different answers. So, does PSA or BGS have a standard approach for this set? I doubt it.

Dpeck100

NHL here is an Andre with really strong centering. I sent this in and it sits in a PSA 7 holder.

Dpeck100

Here is a PSA 8 that was a BGS 9.











This is a sharp card but obviously the centering top to bottom is an issue.













Here is a BGS 8 crack out that sits in a PSA 6 due to centering. I asked for no qualifiers on this submission.















Here is a BGS 9 crack out that now sits in a PSA 8 holder.













BGS 8.5 crack out that sits in a PSA 8 holder.















BGS 8.5 crackout that now sits in a PSA 8 holder.





I was 0 for 5 in my BGS attempts in the holder first and then out of the holder second.

Dpeck100

Here are a few PSA graded examples to reference centering grades.

wrestlingcardking

that was fun to watch come to an end...nearly $3000 for that card.

Big80s

How does the BGS 9.5 population compare to the PSA 9 pop, for that particular card?

Dpeck100

The auction states that the pop report for that card is 1 and the pop report for a PSA 9 is 2.



I think the final hammer price was a great price and this is the highest recorded sale for a wrestling card that I am aware of.



The Ric Flair card did very well too and sold for $426 for a PSA 9.

NHLfightguy

What are some of the other top prices cards from Wrestling All Stars have sold for. What was highest before this Andre sold.

eagles33

Do you think these kind of prices would only be realized for this set or are there any other wrestling sets with this kind of potential?

Planemonkey

This picture is from the beckett price guide from 1989, and I saw it in a guide from 2003 also, not sure if they are still using it.
It look like centering is measured from the top border in the guide. The back of the Andre looks perfectly centered, not sure if the ones that look centered on the front are centered on the back.

Dpeck100

Eagles I do not believe there is another set from wrestling that can recreate the explosiveness of the Wrestling All Stars.

There are small sets like the Carnation Major League Wrestling that have potential but most are mass produced or easily found in good condition.

The Parkhurst cards from the 50's could command high prices but it appears very little if any high grade material exists and I don't see those taking off in mid to low grade.

When I first handled these cards in August of 2009 I just knew they could become valuable and when I learned more about the limited quantity and how they were distributed I was sold and began buying almost any card I could get my hands on.

At this time PSA graded examples sell for much greater prices and I am not aware of any cards from other third party grading companies commanding an equal or greater price in the equivalent grade.

If this had been a PSA graded card I think the price would have been higher for sure. I have said it before that a Hogan PSA 10 if it ever surfaced would be a $5,000+ card and after seeing how well this Andre did that number may be conservative. There has been a large amount of the cards from these sets graded and enough time has eclipsed for the market to price in how significant that would be.

When I paid the unheard of price for my first Ric Flair PSA 10 of $1,225 we were very early in the grading cycle for these. A Hogan or Andre PSA 10 at that point would have done well but not nearly as well as they would today.

After I purchased that Ric Flair two more surfaced and the card fell significantly. The market for Flair cards have firmed up and I don't think it is crazy to think one could sell for close to that amount and the longer that passes without another one surfacing the stronger that price will get.

The Wrestling All Stars are what the 52 Topps is to baseball cards and the 86 Fleer is to basketball. This is the wrestling set and there simply is not any other one like it.

miconelegacy

Very well said D!