Home U.S. Coin Forum
Options

You Never Know-Got Morgan Grades Back

RichRRichR Posts: 3,910 ✭✭✭✭✭
So...I submitted 17 raw Morgans, mostly acquired 25+ years ago, for grading.

But first, a few had what I deemed to be unattractive, uneven toning...so I carefully dipped and rinsed them prior to submittal. And those all graded in various Unc conditions either at the expected grade or just 1 point off either way...in fact 13 of the 17 came back fine.

One came back identified as stained...which was unfortunate, because it did get damaged in storage due to a rubber band leaching through a soft flip...which I didn't know was possible...oh well...still an accurate assessment.

But three, with what I deemed to be fairly attractive goldish toning, gained over decades in a Dansco album...and in the expected 63 range, came back as improperly cleaned. Which unless it happened back in the 1980s...and escaped my notice when my eyes were much much better, is literally impossible.

But anyhow, I now plan to also carefully dip them, let them "age" for a year or two...and then resubmit. And won't I laugh when they grade up just fine...because for the life of me, I'm not seeing any issues with them (they're still in transit, so I don't have any pictures to post yet).

Has anything similar happened to you?

Comments

  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, but usually with the "altered surfaces" description. Some I sent right back in without doing anything; others I gave a very fast dip to. I think only one didn't get into a holder.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,267 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>But anyhow, I now plan to also carefully dip them, let them "age" for a year or two...and then resubmit. And won't I laugh when they grade up just fine... >>


    Having to pay two grading fees to get a coin into a graded holder isn't something that would make me laugh.

    Like Dennis, I've resubmitted a head-scratcher or two that came back "altered surfaces" and got a grade.
  • This content has been removed.
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How did the ones that graded do?

    http://www.bluccphotos.com" target="new">BluCC Photos Shows for onsite imaging: Nov Baltimore, FUN, Long Beach http://www.facebook.com/bluccphotos" target="new">BluCC on Facebook
  • RichRRichR Posts: 3,910 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<How did the ones that graded do?>>

    All the others either graded on the button as to my original purchase expectations...or within a single grade (a couple lower and a couple higher). And there was one purchased as an admittedly discounted MS60 "slider"...and that came back as a AU-58.

    So the ones that graded were pretty much on target.

    And unfortunately, the one that came back as [legitimately] stained....was the priciest one in the batch...oh well.


  • I had 10 ASEs in a Dansco holder that were toned really nice and I sent them in back in Nov. 2010.
    They all came back graded MS (5) 66, (4) 67 and one MS 68. In 2011 I bought another Dansco
    holder with 15 more ASEs that looked the exact same color and really nice tone. I compared
    them to the first ones that graded and they where like looking in a mirror just not slabed so I
    thought these will surely grade the same, a mint state grade. Well in March I sent them in and
    when I saw what they graded, Questionable Color I kind of cried alittle but heck what do I know
    I just compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges but I guess some coins are lemons.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,537 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Has anything similar happened to you? >>



    Something similar happened .... the costs were the same, if you know what I mean image
  • RichRRichR Posts: 3,910 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's ironic...is that the three that came back as problems didn't give me pause at all. It was the recently dipped blast white ones that I wasn't so sure about.

    Oh well...maybe someone was having at bad day behind the microscope!
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,788 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I may be incorrect but I beleive that often times a goldish tone can look like dip residue from an improper rinse to graders. I just had a similar thing happen when I sent an OGH holdered coin to CAC, John cited this as the reason he declined to sticker that coin.
    My Lincoln Registry
    My Collection of Old Holders

    Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
  • RichRRichR Posts: 3,910 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<often times a goldish tone>>

    Not to worry...they'll be blast white and fresh as the day they were originally minted on their return engagement!

    Because, as we all know...150 year old silver coins always remain snow white without ever having been dipped!

    The games you have to play...crazy!
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds good, thanks for sharing !!!
    Timbuk3

  • You had better luck than I do with PCGS. I felt ripped every time I sent in Morgans the last few yrs. I send all the Morgans to NGC now. Why not, for the most part they have the same market value and lower costs. (I send most other series to PCGS)

    Speaking of dipping. I had been selling bulk raw Silver Dollars to APMEX for years. They pretty much always agreed with my grading until perhaps a couple years ago. They then started to downgrade my BU's, so I began dipping them all for a few mths. They went back to giving me the BU grades. I dipped several hundred. Then over a year ago, dipped or not they want to question almost every BU I send them. I no longer sell them my Dollars. I guess the point is .......... everything is an opinion, all subject to change.

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file