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Has the Registry Forum "death knell" sounded??

keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
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The Registry Forum has always been a puzzling thing for me. IIRC it began at the behest and lobbying of a member and always struck me as a specialized sub-forum of the US/BST rooms. I have visited with regularity over the years, mainly to read and see what might be offered For Sale, and have noticed the rise and now the steady fall in participation which I've noticed during the past year especially. This morning i was seriously shocked to 6 threads showing as current!!!!

Has the Registry Forum run its course?? Is it time for it to be dissolved??

Al H.

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Once they started allowing bst threads, I pretty much stayed away. Funny how the one thing designed to increase traffic instead killed the Forum (IMO).
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,777 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great question. Try the Q & A Forum.

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it sounded, there was no one there to hear it.

    FWIW, I think that this forum has also slowed considerably, but it is not nearly as obvious as what has happened to the Registry Forum.
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If it sounded, there was no one there to hear it.

    FWIW, I think that this forum has also slowed considerably >>



    Indeed it has. MJ
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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure I ever visited it before seeing this thread.
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  • 2ltdjorn2ltdjorn Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If it sounded, there was no one there to hear it.

    FWIW, I think that this forum has also slowed considerably, but it is not nearly as obvious as what has happened to the Registry Forum. >>



    This is true.
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  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There was a surge in interest early on as people played with their sets on the new Registry, noticed one another, got to view one another's coin jpgs, and voiced encouragement and despair as people rose and fell in the ratings with regularity, etc.

    But it was obvious from the outset that as the Registry matured, people would "settle in," the rankings would become established/stagnant, changes in people's entries would be desultory, and activity would wane. Admiring comments and excited additions, once stated, had no reason for repetition. And as noted, the move to BST posts to take up the emptying space wasn't enough to reignite a fan base.

    Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...



  • DonWillisDonWillis Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
    Once they started allowing bst threads, I pretty much stayed away.

    That's news to me. No BST threads are allowed there.

    I like the Registry forum. To me it's a forum for more advanced collectors who are pursuing specific specific collecting interests.

    One issue is that many of the top Registry participants keep their interests very private and shy away from public discussions.



  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Once they started allowing bst threads, I pretty much stayed away.

    That's news to me. No BST threads are allowed there.

    I like the Registry forum. To me it's a forum for more advanced collectors who are pursuing specific specific collecting interests.

    One issue is that many of the top Registry participants keep their interests very private and shy away from public discussions. >>


    It's interesting to me that participation is down as it seems to be that registry sets are as popular as ever.

    Might it be an indication of overall decrease in participation in this coin forum, decrease in participation in coin forums, more generally, or decrease in participation in coins?

    I would add that when the Registry Forum was active there seemed to be various phases where certain specific types of coins were actively discussed (and sometimes promoted image ) to the exclusion of other registry sets. Often, it had to do with fairly charismatic coin folks who developed a cult following. Wash quarters, merc dimes, Lincoln cents (business strike) and MPLs come to mind, as do their proponents.
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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dpoole summed it up very nicely.

    Don and RYK also had a good point as well.

    But, there is another factor to consider ....

    Many of the previously active participants there moved into gold, silver and platinum modern coins. These coins are spoken about in threads on the US Coin Forum .... threads that now have 10,000+ comments in one case. They could have just as easily been opened on the registry forum, but the buyers of these moderns are generally not buying them to register sets with the coins. I, myself, have purchased a ton of these coins in the past half a dozen years and have not placed virtually any, if any, of my purchases in registry sets. Also, many buyers who were previously "registry set collectors" are now modern coin "flippers" and in many cases obtaining AMAZING returns on their coins. Just last month, if you were smart enough to pay $900 for a half oz. of gold from the US Mint (with NO limit) in the form of MS Hayes or Garfield spouse coins (which is nearly "melt" today just on the gold content), you would have had roughly a 50% return in the past 30 days (tomorrow is a new day and of course that incredible return can keep rising or drop back down). Or, how about the 2009 Ultra High Relief that just sold for close to $21,000 in the GC auction that cost about $1200 from the US Mint 3 years ago! Coins like this are being discussed by scores of "collector/flippers"on a number of threads on the US Coin Forum. I have chosen to keep my comments there as well, especially in light of the fact that few people are actually registering these modern coin purchases in registry sets best I can tell.

    But, I personally believe it would be easy enough to "rejuvinate" the action on the registry forum just by introducing threads on these modern coins and ultra modern coins. This is "where the action is" now. I won't even begin to list the classic coin dealers here that have moved (solidly) into modern coins now. One just needs to go over to the dealer network (CCE) and see the buys on spouse coins, gold eagles, silver eagles, platinum, eagles, etc. and in many cases where the bids are coming from!

    But, to get the registry forum "back on track", I think I will post a few threads on these very topics (modern gold, silver, platinum coins) and see if the action can pick up over there once again.

    As always, just my 2 cents.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,028 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Once they started allowing bst threads, I pretty much stayed away.

    That's news to me. No BST threads are allowed there.

    I like the Registry forum. To me it's a forum for more advanced collectors who are pursuing specific specific collecting interests.

    One issue is that many of the top Registry participants keep their interests very private and shy away from public discussions. >>



    Don, if you do a quick look at the Registry forum you will see that of the 20 threads on page one there are six that are specifically listing coins for sale, one that is requesting a coin for purchase and one that provides a directly link to a TeleTrade auction, but does not state that the poster owns the coin. That would be eight threads out of 20, which is 40% of the threads directly written for and engaged in BST activities.
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    a quick look at the Registry forum you will see that of the 20 threads on page one

    i only see seven threads, but to the point of coins for sale at that forum i have always understood it was allowed so long as the coins being sold were Registry coins intended to be used in Registry Sets. i never understood the logic but it's allowed.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TomB ... Don't forget to mention and perfectly within the rules ... even when the registry forum was booming with action. The offerings there have resulted in registry guys acquiring great coins for their sets over the years. Although I have refrained from offering coins there for many, many years (except in perhaps a rare case where my consignor asked me to mention it there), I have no problem with anyone else doing so especially with the rule that there are no "ttt" on such threads.

    I just posted a thread over there on platinum. Let's see if any cares.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mitch, I have absolutely no problem with BST listings being in the Registry forum, but Don appears to have thought they were precluded, which was the only reason why I checked.image

    Al, if you go under "Customize" and then scroll down, there is an option for the number of days that will appear in a forum display. Perhaps you have your settings to something lower than mine and this setting might lead you to see fewer threads.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Once they started allowing bst threads, I pretty much stayed away.

    That's news to me. No BST threads are allowed there.

    I like the Registry forum. To me it's a forum for more advanced collectors who are pursuing specific specific collecting interests.

    One issue is that many of the top Registry participants keep their interests very private and shy away from public discussions. >>




    Don, here is a post that copied the original message (from BJ) back in 2005. This was the allowing of BST threads, within guidance as listed, on the Registry Forum:

    Link to authorizing thread


    Note....I have registry sets but am not a bigtime player, so I haven't bought, nor sold, registry coins from that forum. It is too bad that it isn't as active as it was fun for awhile, but some of that activity was, as mentioned, folks pumping up certain coins/series for their own benefits. I do miss the Roosevelt guys...they always seemed to have a good time, and be very helpful and not just pump their series in order to sell their stuff.

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Once they started allowing bst threads, I pretty much stayed away.

    That's news to me. No BST threads are allowed there.

    I like the Registry forum. To me it's a forum for more advanced collectors who are pursuing specific specific collecting interests.

    One issue is that many of the top Registry participants keep their interests very private and shy away from public discussions. >>

    According to the
    Set Registry Forum Rules:

    "The PCGS Set Registry forum is for PCGS Set Registry participants to discuss Set Registry issues, to share photos from their collections, to post want lists, and to sell duplicates and other registry coins."

    No mention of "trading coins" but thats a short jump when a registry participant has something like a duplicate for sale.

    Granted, Set Registry discussion has been minimal aside from Cosetta's update threads and a majority of the threads are "For Sale" offerings BUT this is not a violation of the forums rules (according to the rules).

    The biggest difference between the selling/trading/buying of coins of the Set Registry Forum and the BST Forum is that ttt's are not allowed on the Registry Forum.
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Registry Forum has always been open to for sale threads.

    Frankly, anyplace or venue is MUCH better than the B,S&T forum. That forum sucks!! It needs to be redone and organized.

    It's terrible!!!!!
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,234 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Once they started allowing bst threads, I pretty much stayed away.

    That's news to me. No BST threads are allowed there.

    I like the Registry forum. To me it's a forum for more advanced collectors who are pursuing specific specific collecting interests.

    One issue is that many of the top Registry participants keep their interests very private and shy away from public discussions. >>



    Don, if you do a quick look at the Registry forum you will see that of the 20 threads on page one there are six that are specifically listing coins for sale, one that is requesting a coin for purchase and one that provides a directly link to a TeleTrade auction, but does not state that the poster owns the coin. That would be eight threads out of 20, which is 40% of the threads directly written for and engaged in BST activities. >>



    I seem to remember that it was ok to mention in passing that a coin was for sale, but don't recall that it was allowed to specifically make for sale posts. At least that's how I sorta remember it.
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  • DonWillisDonWillis Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
    Is something weird going on here?

    I only see 7 posts in the PCGS Registry forum. I do not see any posts regarding forum rules.

    If BST has been traditionally allowed that's ok with me. I just don't want to see any spamming.


    Edited to add: If anyone is concerned about the lack of posts on the Registry Forum trying posting something yourself.



  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Once th MPL craze died down, the forum kind of went away.....
    Becky
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Simple fact is many of the players wised up to the old adage "Loose lips sink ships." If you really want to sell something and boost the price them talk about it but if your trying to find it you have more luck finding it at the right price being quite in the hunt.
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just have to post there to make it happen...

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sell threads were not always allowed on the Set Registry forum. What was allowed was a thread announcing one's set was going into auction or being consigned with a dealer. A blatant listing of x coin at y dollars was not.

    Those were the good old days.
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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is something weird going on here?

    I only see 7 posts in the PCGS Registry forum. I do not see any posts regarding forum rules. >>



    The default setting on the customize page for number of past days of threads to view is 20. That can be edited to go up to 9999 days.

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Used to be over there all the time but it seemed redundant after a while.

    Like others over the years, I come here less often, sometimes only to check for PM's.......
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is something weird going on here?

    I only see 7 posts in the PCGS Registry forum. I do not see any posts regarding forum rules. >>

    The thread is and always has been locked to prevent discussions regarding the rules within that thread.

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  • SteveSteve Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    It is obvious to me that there are many DIFFERENT opinions as to what the Set Registry Forum is intended for. To me, it is a place to comment or reply to a thread and KNOW it won't be on page 2 or 3 within a day or so. I, of course, look at the Coin Forum every day but usually I don't look at more than the top 20 or 30 threads. I probably MISS some good ones. I see the Set Registry Forum as a place where a more specialized subject can be discussed in more detail by people who may be specifically interested in such subject. (ie) Matte Proof Lincoln cents or Modern Platimum coins. The fact that the subject thread stays on the first page for weeks doesn't bother me because it allows others to comment when they see it later. I would suggest everyone who goes to the Coin Forum daily make a point to visit the Set Registry forum every week, like every Sunday, just to see what new items are posted. Steveimage
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  • CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If it sounded, there was no one there to hear it.

    FWIW, I think that this forum has also slowed considerably >>



    Indeed it has. MJ >>



    I used to read daily, now every few days. What happened to this thread?
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>If it sounded, there was no one there to hear it.

    FWIW, I think that this forum has also slowed considerably >>



    Indeed it has. MJ >>



    I used to read daily, now every few days. What happened to this thread? >>

    It's still here.

    As for the Registry Forum...........I visit on occasion unless there is an active thread that I have interest in (Presidential Dollar First Day of Issue) OR if I've upgraded my set(s).
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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