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braddickbraddick Posts: 24,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Which scenario is a bit scarier?

A (seasoned) collector and/or dealer thinks a genuine coin is a counterfeit, or a (seasoned) collector and/or dealer believes a counterfeit is genuine?

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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    The latter.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    C. The season dealer thinking that the seasoned collector is counterfeit. image
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  • copperhuntercopperhunter Posts: 925 ✭✭✭
    In statistical terms: Alpha error versus Beta error. I would rather be conservative and err on the side of not buying a known genuine coin because I have doubts to its authenticity (Alpha), then to buy a coin that ultimately turns out to be counterfeited overseas (Beta).
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  • machoponchomachoponcho Posts: 355 ✭✭✭
    Mistaking an authentic coin for a counterfeit.

    Counterfeits can be produced on the order of millions. The number of authentic coins from any given date and mint can only decrease after the Mint is done coining them. For one of these to be mistaken as counterfeit is therefore a bit scarier on an all-else-being-even, single-case scenario.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>C. The season dealer thinking that the seasoned collector is counterfeit. image >>



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  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    "C. The season dealer thinking that the seasoned collector is counterfeit."

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,271 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>C. The season dealer thinking that the seasoned collector is counterfeit. image >>


    What if the dealer is artifically seasoned?
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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    D. The seasoned collector thinking that the counterfeit (seasoned) dealer is genuine.
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,643 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What exactly is a counterfeit collector? Is that the guy who talks big at all the coin shows, but doesn't have the collection to back it up?
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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The seasoned Dealer taking advantage of the unseasoned buyer and selling them details coins cracked out of details holders.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i think the collector thinks that the seasoned dealer is counterfeit image
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Assuming it's something that you can find others to chose from.
    If in doubt pass on the coin.
    Get a slabbed one or one that you have no doubts about.

    If it's a chance in a lifetime then do more reading and find info to help tell if it's fake/real. Or ask if the seller will get it graded and you'll pay for the cost and effort.
    Ed
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In statistical terms: Alpha error versus Beta error. I would rather be conservative and err on the side of not buying a known genuine coin because I have doubts to its authenticity (Alpha), then to buy a coin that ultimately turns out to be counterfeited overseas (Beta). >>


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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Which scenario is a bit scarier? >>



    Neither. However the misappropriate use of English grammar is very frightening. image

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  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The latter. >>



    What he said.
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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,261 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like the Dr. Weiss ancient coin story.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,783 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The latter. >>



    What he said. >>



    Yup.

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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The latter. >>


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