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First spouse Alice paul on sale October 11,2012

mikeygmikeyg Posts: 1,002 ✭
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Its now on the mint new releases page: First spouse series one half ounce gold proof Alice Paul and uncirculated half ounce Alice Paul coins will go on sale October 11,2012 at 12 noon.So who will be buying when they come out?Do you think its going to be a stand alone one of a kind "first spouse"?Should they have chosen an image of a circulating coin of the time instead? What do you think?
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I will vote to pass on this piece of whatever.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    first spouse with neither liberty nor spouse. Individual type coin?
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  • NickcapNickcap Posts: 977 ✭
    How is she suppose to be representing Chester Arhur?

    This doesn't make any sense, but that is nothing new.
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  • NeoclassicalAnalystNeoclassicalAnalyst Posts: 341 ✭✭
    I plan to send 25 first spouse gold coins (including 2 A. Paul) in a bulk submission accroding to PCGS policy (minimum 20 coins for first spouse bulk submission?)

    Anyone know PCGS pricing policy for first spouse bulk submission? How much do they charge for FS in a first spouse bulk submission? Many thanks.
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,349 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How is she suppose to be representing Chester Arhur?

    This doesn't make any sense, but that is nothing new. >>




    the Liberties did not represent the single presidents either. They represented the time period though. I am guessing the problem is that there was no PC version of Liberty from 1885 era to use that was not already used (buchanan's liberty) and they chose a historically significant female figure from the time.
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  • NeoclassicalAnalystNeoclassicalAnalyst Posts: 341 ✭✭
    Yes, I will sell my t-bonds and buy a few FS coins. Why? Gross today Warns that my Bonds Could Be ‘Burned to Crisp’ in the near future.




    << <i>I plan to send 25 first spouse gold coins (including 2 A. Paul) in a bulk submission accroding to PCGS policy (minimum 20 coins for first spouse bulk submission?)

    Anyone know PCGS pricing policy for first spouse bulk submission? How much do they charge for FS in a first spouse bulk submission? Many thanks. >>

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  • claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭
    As stated before, a cool subset of the Liberty coins ruined by political correctness. Gee, what Liberties could we have had from 1881 to 1885? A Longacre Indian Princess? A Morgan Liberty? Alice Paul was BORN in 1885, and her impact on history was well after the turn of the century - hardly representative of the wild west era and Pres. Arthur's civil service and Navy Dept. accomplishments.

    Another PC coin to go the melting pot!


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  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    comrade renski pass

    is PC crap
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,349 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As stated before, a cool subset of the Liberty coins ruined by political correctness. Gee, what Liberties could we have had from 1881 to 1885? A Longacre Indian Princess? A Morgan Liberty? Alice Paul was BORN in 1885, and her impact on history was well after the turn of the century - hardly representative of the wild west era and Pres. Arthur's civil service and Navy Dept. accomplishments.

    Another PC coin to go the melting pot! >>




    I didn't realize.


    I guess SBA was used.


    I'm surpriswed they could not find someone else. image


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  • fishcookerfishcooker Posts: 3,446 ✭✭
    I vote No.
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,192 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As stated before, a cool subset of the Liberty coins ruined by political correctness.

    I agree. Was it the Mint or Congress that decided on that one?
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congress ultimately wrote the law and voted it in.

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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>first spouse with neither liberty nor spouse. Individual type coin? >>


    Stand-alone individual commem. The only First Spouse coin without "term of office" dates.

    The only continuity with the rest of the series lies in the placement of the design elements on obverse and reverse.

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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A Longacre indian princess would have looked so amazing on this coin. ;(
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A Longacre indian princess would have looked so amazing on this coin. ;( >>



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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,349 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A Longacre indian princess would have looked so amazing on this coin. ;( >>




    yes, but not nearly PC enough for the Congress crowd
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  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>How is she suppose to be representing Chester Arhur?

    This doesn't make any sense, but that is nothing new. >>




    the Liberties did not represent the single presidents either. They represented the time period though. I am guessing the problem is that there was no PC version of Liberty from 1885 era to use that was not already used (buchanan's liberty) and they chose a historically significant female figure from the time. >>




    So Morgan's version of Liberty was not pc?
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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I vote No. >>



    heehee.. image Subtle..

    It'd be nice if they'd put Lancelot Link on the coin. It would make about as much sense.
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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    Who is Alice Paul? Never heard of her in 57 years.

    Good Grief, the mint is running out of people to immortalize.

    Look for a series of Supreme Court Justices next. Marshall, Warren, Burger.

    Kagen, Ginsberg, Satomayor will be offered by the mint, too.
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We're going to honor everyone that ever stepped foot in Washington. (Except for MLK Jr, apparently.)
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  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭


    << <i>We're going to honor everyone that ever stepped foot in Washington. (Except for MLK Jr, apparently.) >>




    Give 'em time grasshopper. For now at least he has the longest road in the country named for him. A street that I think runs through just about every city in the land.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,537 ✭✭✭✭✭
    She's no different than another half ounce of gold. Time will tell which ones were definitely worth it. The first gold spouse I purchased cost under $500. To the moon, Alice !

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  • CoinMaster1229CoinMaster1229 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭
    First week of sales for Alice Paul....
    Proof--1,808
    Unc.---1,394
    All the bad talk about Alice Paul has not stopped the buying image










  • claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>First week of sales for Alice Paul....
    Proof--1,808
    Unc.---1,394
    All the bad talk about Alice Paul has not stopped the buying image >>



    More for the melting pot!


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  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>First week of sales for Alice Paul....
    Proof--1,808
    Unc.---1,394
    All the bad talk about Alice Paul has not stopped the buying image >>



    More for the melting pot! >>




    It must be because the design is so overwhelming.


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  • CoinMaster1229CoinMaster1229 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>First week of sales for Alice Paul....
    Proof--1,808
    Unc.---1,394
    All the bad talk about Alice Paul has not stopped the buying image >>



    More for the melting pot! >>




    It must be because the design is so overwhelming.


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  • CoinMaster1229CoinMaster1229 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭
    My Alice Paul was Shipped 10/18...
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Alice Paul just died in 1977. For Pete's sake, what the heck was the Mint/Congress thinking?

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  • mikeygmikeyg Posts: 1,002 ✭





    Hmmm now I am wondering if this "coin" will set a record for the highest # sold of fs coins for the last few years.
  • SlvrandGldSlvrandGld Posts: 168
    Got mine friday. Proof. I returned it because it had a nick on her nose. First time Ive ever had to return a spouse.
  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hmmm now I am wondering if this "coin" will set a record for the highest # sold of fs coins for the last few years. >>





    My guess is that it tops the recent ones and then the downward trend resumes.
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  • traelin0traelin0 Posts: 9
    I don't know why this release grates on my nerves so much. Maybe it's the enormous delay since the last FS, or maybe it's the complete dismissal of the set's true theme. Maybe it's a combination of both.

    I am still on the fence as to whether I'm going to continue the FS series, but it'll be difficult to dismiss it carte blanche given that I've been in it since the beginning.
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  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't know why this release grates on my nerves so much. Maybe it's the enormous delay since the last FS, or maybe it's the complete dismissal of the set's true theme. Maybe it's a combination of both.

    I am still on the fence as to whether I'm going to continue the FS series, but it'll be difficult to dismiss it carte blanche given that I've been in it since the beginning. >>






    I would not even consider it a FS coin. There is nothing on it that indicates it is part of the series. Of course the books will always serve to remind us of inclusion in the series.
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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Show and tell with the Alice Paul coin:

    "This coin is part of a series called 'First Spouse', featuring the wives of U.S. presidents. The coin honors the wife of President Chester A. Arthur, who unfortunately didn't have a wife while in office, so instead the coin depicts Alice Paul, who wasn't even born until President Arthur was leaving office, and there is no reference at all to the Arthur administration on the coin, but it represents his presidency anyway because Congress says so. Is everything clear now?" image

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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This Alice Paul discussion is just fooling around while we wait for the Jackie Kennedy coin.

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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭


    when the mint gets around to doing Beavis and Butthead which will be the spouse?
  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This Alice Paul discussion is just fooling around while we wait for the Jackie Kennedy coin.

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    I guess you would have preferred them to issue the coins in reverse order.
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  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭
    Somethin' just ain't right about this.



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  • traelin0traelin0 Posts: 9
    What's even more screwed up is that Congress can't even write legible legislation with respect to something as simple as a modern commemorative program.

    Section 103(o)(3)(D)(i)(II) pertains to Alice Paul.

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-109publ145/pdf/PLAW-109publ145.pdf

    Here's the bill as introduced in the Senate. It was one of these mandarins that put it in there since it was there from the beginning.

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-109s1047is/pdf/BILLS-109s1047is.pdf
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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coinsponge-- I thought the SAME thing! Anyone glancing at that and not knowing obscure presidental history would assume they were husband and wife. I can just hear Alice Paul going: "That pig!? He's old enough to be my grandfather!" and Chester Authur's ACTUAL wife (who died before he was in office) wailing about him being unfaithful to her with a young hussy.
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  • HalfStrikeHalfStrike Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭
    Already almost up to 1600 on the unc.

    Alice Paul Proof (2012) 2,110 302
    Alice Paul Uncirculated (2012) 1,572 178
  • DeliaBugDeliaBug Posts: 881 ✭


    << <i>Coinsponge-- I thought the SAME thing! Anyone glancing at that and not knowing obscure presidental history would assume they were husband and wife. I can just hear Alice Paul going: "That pig!? He's old enough to be my grandfather!" and Chester Authur's ACTUAL wife (who died before he was in office) wailing about him being unfaithful to her with a young hussy. >>



    Those comments can apply to the next one for sure.
  • berylberyl Posts: 131 ✭✭✭
    Alice Paul was born in 1885; Arthur died of kidney failure in 1886. No chance for an affair. Bizarre "first spouse" medal collection. The suffrage wagon people and other Alice Paul fans might buy the Alice Paul medal by itself but I am sure they wouldn't want Chester Arthur medal!
  • 2manycoins2fewfunds2manycoins2fewfunds Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭
    So what will this weeks sales numbers show??
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So what will this weeks sales numbers show?? >>


    Sales report likely delayed by the storm.

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  • Draped10cDraped10c Posts: 193
    From Coinupdate:

    Proof 2,352
    Unc 1,696
  • 2manycoins2fewfunds2manycoins2fewfunds Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭
    Now the real question....when will they go dark?
  • Weather11amWeather11am Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭
    To buy or not to buy???
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's just not an attractive coin at all. I do like the next one in series coming out...
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  • Draped10cDraped10c Posts: 193
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    She's ugly and uninteresting. FC 1 & even 2 look better.

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