Thoughts on the new announcement

epatmythes

Several weeks ago, the PSA database was updated to eliminate the second spec number associated with PSA/DNA autographed cards. In addition, spec numbers were merged so that now, in most cases, there is only one spec number for each card instead of a spec for the non-autographed version and one for the autographed version. All of this was done in order to streamline the database and eliminate issues associated with PSA/DNA certified cards.

Concurrently, Joe Orlando, President of PSA, instituted a new policy with regards to autographed cards in the PSA Set Registry. “In the hobby, trading cards that are signed after-the-fact (not cards manufactured with autographs) are treated differently than trading cards that remain in their original form. While both types of cards are highly collectible, it would be unfair and illogical to treat unsigned and signed trading cards the same in the PSA Set Registry. In other words, they both deserve their own categories and should compete against like items. Cards that were released by the manufacturer in unsigned form should have their own category as should cards that have had autographs added to them after the cards entered the market. Because they are two different kinds of collectibles, the Registry no longer permits signed cards in non-autograph sets. This is consistent with market sentiment.”

epatmythes

... disregard

I see now that they added a PSA/DNA section to the Pop Reports...

They just failed to mention that in the email announcement

VitoCo1972

That may be true but they did remove all my PSA DNA cards from my sets. What the heck do I do now with full signed card sets? Do I just have to create showcases for them? That's REALLY annoying.

VitoCo1972

Seriously, this is ludicrous. It's not going to cause me to lose sleep at night but if I can't add cards to my registry set, what's the point of submitting ones I got in person - especially low value commons? I'm not much for registry competition but I'm a completionist and was planing on grading all my hockey and basketball signed sets just so I could see them in the registry, Showcases are not the same thing. They need to add Autographed signed sets (not like signed HOF rookies, I mean signed 1971 Topps or signed 1968 Topps etc.) into the registry if they're really going this way. Totally stupid.

epatmythes

My understanding is, they will do that now... you just have to request it!

VitoCo1972

You may be right. I just requested three different ones. We'll see. There's no request for for Hockey - Autographs - Team sets though. I understand why they're making a change but to do it like this seems a little absurd, and there should have been a mod post about it on this board considering the amount of autographed threads on it.

VitoCo1972

Also, open note to PSA. If you're going to rearrange and create a Red-Flip Style Registry sets, you MUST weight multi-player cards that have been signed by all players depicted higher. For example, if you're doing a HOF Baseball player set, how are you evaluating the 1982 Topps Ripken/Bonner/Schneider? There really needs to be a higher weight for having the card signed by all three players as opposed to just Cal. In my mind, the card is incomplete as a signed card unless it's signed by all players depicted. I'm sure there will be big time disagreement over this one. But if you have a 1964 Niekro without Phil Roof's signature, it should be single weighted. If you have Roof and Niekro on it, it should be 2X or 1.5X weighted. Perhaps HOF sets is the wrong example here...

The reason I'm mentioning this is because in, for example, 1971 Topps, there are Leaders cards that depict two, three and four players. If I'm doing 1971 Topps and I only have that card signed by one player, PSA will slab it and make it eligible (understandable since it's a revenue stream) but it shouldn't count toward a registry the same way as a card having all signatures. This needs to be remedied.

AISAVDBBALLINPHILLY

It makes sense to keep the signed cards (other than those that came signed from packs) separate. Since the cards did not come that way from the manufacturer and were altered, they should be in a separate category. This policy was definitely made with the collector in mind, and I am happy to see it implemented.