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New eBay policy impacting how "duplicate" coin auctions are listed (or not listed)

jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
I just got the following email from eBay:


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Dear {me},

We're writing to you because you have had duplicate Auction-style listings on eBay in the past. We are changing how these listings will appear on the site, and wanted to inform you that these changes could result in reduced visibility on the site.

Starting October 4, if you create or have duplicate Auction-style listings on the site, only one listing without bids will appear on the site at a time. Once that listing receives a bid or ends, the next listing for the same item will be eligible to appear. If a duplicate Auction-style listing expires before appearing, Insertion Fees and Feature Fees will be refunded, whenever applicable. If your duplicate Auction-style listings are not receiving bids, the duplicate listings could get as little as two hours of visibility on the site.

Get more information on eBay's Duplicate Listing policy.

As always, thank you for selling on eBay.

Sincerely,

The eBay Seller Team >>



I wonder how this will change auction prices for coins of a seller has multiple for sale but only 1 shows up at a time. I also wonder what constitutes a duplicate. Is it title & description, one or the other, or something else. Whatever it is, I'm not sure if I am a fan...

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Put some kind of inventory number in the title. I found their bots do not key if I have a SL1234 and SL4321 listed that are the same grade and type of coin even when they look totally different.
    Sometimes added descritive terms like "Blast White" or "Toned" also keeps the fools at bay.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    I have no idea.

    Maybe some .99 cent sales?
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pay for a seven day listing and get two hours of actual listing sounds like a poor investment of listing.
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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I just got the following email from eBay:


    << <i>
    Dear {me},

    We're writing to you because you have had duplicate Auction-style listings on eBay in the past. We are changing how these listings will appear on the site, and wanted to inform you that these changes could result in reduced visibility on the site.

    Starting October 4, if you create or have duplicate Auction-style listings on the site, only one listing without bids will appear on the site at a time. Once that listing receives a bid or ends, the next listing for the same item will be eligible to appear. If a duplicate Auction-style listing expires before appearing, Insertion Fees and Feature Fees will be refunded, whenever applicable. If your duplicate Auction-style listings are not receiving bids, the duplicate listings could get as little as two hours of visibility on the site.

    Get more information on eBay's Duplicate Listing policy.

    As always, thank you for selling on eBay.

    Sincerely,

    The eBay Seller Team >>



    I wonder how this will change auction prices for coins of a seller has multiple for sale but only 1 shows up at a time. I also wonder what constitutes a duplicate. Is it title & description, one or the other, or something else. Whatever it is, I'm not sure if I am a fan... >>



    WOW! You just confirmed a rumor I put a lot of stock in! Ebay is systematically blocking out listings because they do not have the bandwitdth to deal with all the listings they have! I have seen it in my sales time and time again! I go awhile without selling anything...and then bam....several sales to people in the same state....or Bam...several sales out of the same category. I hope someone is able to find a way to prove this...as ebay will be subject to 1 heck of a class action lawsuit!
  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    eBay followed up with a phone call. Long story short this policy is geared to maximizing exposure for all sellers. She stated that there must be significant differences between the listings, pictures, title, description.

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ebay is systematically blocking out listings because they do not have the bandwitdth to deal with all the listings they have! I have seen it in my sales time and time again! I go awhile without selling anything...and then bam....several sales to people in the same state....or Bam...several sales out of the same category. I hope someone is able to find a way to prove this...as ebay will be subject to 1 heck of a class action lawsuit! >>



    1. i've wondered about the MASSIVELY inconsistent sales/views in listings - i've also done at-length comparisons from the completed listings pages and over the past 6-12 months which shows extremely large variances in the ended listings reported for sold/non-sold items. quite concerning to me if they have the qualified technicians to run/troubleshoot their servers/software

    2. wouldn't be the first and wouldn't be the last class action ebay has experienced

    my faith in their service is starting to be devalued between the counterfeits and lack of exposure/cross promoting for potential buyers
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HUGE "That Blows"

    I'll have 2 or 3 of the spouses up.


    Serial Numbers are different.... that's about it.


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  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another interesting note, my "Traffic Reports" have been suspiciously unavailable for the past few months....

    The error I get on eBay "The feature you are trying to access is currently unavailable. Please try again later."

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  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    another note, last one... If a seller accepts an offer on an item, eBay appears to show it being sold at the listed price in the completed auction view, even if the actual price sold is less. This would inflate the perceived market value of all similar items.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    one reason, as with their single limit on identical buy it nows is to reduce the search clutter and to persuade sellers to list multiple inventory in a single listing. Unfortunately their requirement for photos of the actual coin and providing the cert number on graded coins makes a single listing of multiple coin items violate their coin policy. Maybe one of you top secret Ebay coin "consultants" can bring this to their attention.



    << <i>another note, last one... If a seller accepts an offer on an item, eBay appears to show it being sold at the listed price in the completed auction view, even if the actual price sold is less. This would inflate the perceived market value of all similar items. >>


    While a search list of completed sales will incorrectly show item sold at asking price, the indidual listing for the item, when clicked on will show the actual accepted price.

    From this completed item search list click on the first item sold to see actual accepted price. I'm with jesse, i like it better if the search list showed actual negotiated price. I use the completed item search often to determine what buyers are paying.

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  • AmigoAmigo Posts: 966

    I agree, a lot of 99¢ sold auctions. If an auction only gets 2 hrs exposure prior to expiration, after the previous listing recieves the first bid, then the sellers are really taking it up the rear.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    not really.

    with free auction style listings, it will reduce their listing count and "load."

    fewer people will have multiples so they won't have .99 cent winners-losers.
    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,477 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>one reason, as with their single limit on identical buy it nows is to reduce the search clutter and to persuade sellers to list multiple inventory in a single listing. Unfortunately their requirement for photos of the actual coin and providing the cert number on graded coins makes a single listing of multiple coin items violate their coin policy. Maybe one of you top secret Ebay coin "consultants" can bring this to their attention.



    << <i>another note, last one... If a seller accepts an offer on an item, eBay appears to show it being sold at the listed price in the completed auction view, even if the actual price sold is less. This would inflate the perceived market value of all similar items. >>


    While a search list of completed sales will incorrectly show item sold at asking price, the indidual listing for the item, when clicked on will show the actual accepted price.

    From this completed item search list click on the first item sold to see actual accepted price. I'm with jesse, i like it better if the search list showed actual negotiated price. I use the completed item search often to determine what buyers are paying. >>




    it is a pain to have to click through al the best offers....
    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,540 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This isn't looking good for me selling my duplicate Susan B. Anthony dollars on eBay.
  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭
    Make the sales price 1 cent different on each listing.
  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I understand the frustration for people who have paid to list dupes, but in a way I like this idea. How many here have had to wade through a bunch of duplicate listings by the same seller(s) only to find your single listing for a similar item buried so far beneath them that you'll be lucky if anyone even sees it...? This way your item has a better chance. I know some sellers do the multiple-dupes method specifically and purposely to bury competing items (especially when it's a new hot issue that they want to flip in quantity while the flipping's good) so in a way this levels the field a bit for someone selling only one or two similar pieces. JMHO

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