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Who here has the oldest PSA graded card?

PSA started grading in 1991 - so who here actually owns one of the first graded cards?

Post the cert number and lets see who has the oldest.

**If you don't feel comfortable writing the actual number, then transpose some of the last numbers so we can see where you stand**

My oldest is cert # 08183437

(NOTE: I changed the last 3 numbers for 2 reasons, 1 - Its a high dollar card and I didn't want to feel as though I was bragging and 2 - I don't want everyone to start checking cert numbers - If someone feels like telling everyone what card it is, then by all means feel free)

So if YOU have something that can beat this, then post the magic number.

This should be interesting...

Comments

  • PFBPFB Posts: 271 ✭✭
    I wish PSA would allow an option, that the owner of the card could enable. I have traded some cards, I think it would be interesting to see where they are in the world.
    PFB
  • lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭
    Beat what???

    Cert numbers where never in numerical order.
    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


  • Beat what??? Cert numbers where never in numerical order.

    Really? Glad I wrote this then because otherwise I would have never known. How come then when I get cards graded, they are listed in numerical order then?

    I wish PSA would allow an option, that the owner of the card could enable. I have traded some cards, I think it would be interesting to see where they are in the world.

    Wouldn't that be cool! Would be neat if PSA had a program to register your own cards which kept track and records (dates) to see where your cards have been and eventually end up over time.
  • lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Beat what??? Cert numbers where never in numerical order.

    Really? Glad I wrote this then because otherwise I would have never know. How come then when I get cards graded, they are listed in numerical number then? >>



    Each submission will be in numerical order.....but that is where it ends.
    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Exactly....the were never in numbered order. You can usually tell by the flip. Here is an old card I just sold....

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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They do them in groups. Go down all your subs over the years and see if they are in sequence.


    . But they go all over the place. Yours age in order because they are filling a gap of like 100,000 and those will be in order but then they will start with a completely different number. It was thought also that the numbers or groupings go with a certain grader.
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    Like has been said, no way to tell other than flip style.

    This is my oldest flip.

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  • What the story with that NNO Frank Thomas? Did you get in a pack, purchase raw? Seems like your saying you sent it in for grading yourself. Its a real beauty btw.
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    No, I didn't submit myself, I purchased it for a steal at the low point for this card, lowest priced PSA 9 to ever sell on the open market at $875.

    The flip style is original to the early days of PSA grading, same kind of flip as the Gretzky Wagner.

    When this card was graded I was probably 9 or 10, only dreaming of one day owning this card. Heck, I didn't even know who PSA was until 1995 or so.
    Collector of most things Frank Thomas. www.BigHurtHOF.com
  • CooptownCooptown Posts: 397 ✭✭✭
    Correct me if Im wrong, but isnt the Gretzy Wagner numbered 00000000001?
  • FrozencaribouFrozencaribou Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder what the pop was on PSA 9 OPC Gretzky rookies when this was graded. Less than five would be my guess.

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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Correct me if Im wrong, but isnt the Gretzy Wagner numbered 00000000001? >>



    It is, but they never went in order. That was more of a marketing gimmick.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    A batch of 52 Topps that Hall and a few of his buddies came to own were the first cards graded.

    If one has the inclination to search I think HRH told the story here or in the other forum about 6-7 years ago.


    Good for you.
  • Loyalty32Loyalty32 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭
    Interesting thread. Anyone have a guess on how old this one is? I would love to know!

    Thanks
    Craig

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  • lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭
    The Gretzky Wagner is no longer in it's original flip........it still has the same serial number though.

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    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


  • nice gretzky
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Interesting thread. Anyone have a guess on how old this one is? I would love to know!

    Thanks
    Craig

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    Don't know how times and perceptions have changed, but whoever graded that card should have requested no qualifiers. It seems to have the centering for an unqualified 8. Frankly, I've seen unqualified 9's with worse tilt, though the centering on this one may not make 9 requirements at the "worst point."
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    could be the qualifier is because of back centering. That happens a lot on 1955 Bowman baseball cards, for example
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  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>could be the qualifier is because of back centering. That happens a lot on 1955 Bowman baseball cards, for example >>



    It's possible, though I've gotten unqualified PSA 8's that are nearly miscut on the back.
  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The Gretzky Wagner is no longer in it's original flip........it still has the same serial number though.

    image >>


    Interesting, didn't know that. Why'd they reholder?

    Tabe
  • CooptownCooptown Posts: 397 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Correct me if Im wrong, but isnt the Gretzy Wagner numbered 00000000001? >>



    It is, but they never went in order. That was more of a marketing gimmick. >>



    I know, thats what I was getting at. I didnt think the first card PSA ever graded was the Wagner rookie.
  • This is the first graded card I ever bought. I think that was 1995 or '96 at a local card show.
    Old font style used, long bar code. This was the style of the flip for
    the first 5 years or so of grading, until 1997, when they got rid of the longer bar
    code.

    I still own this card.

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  • To contrast with SGC, this is the first style of flip they used. Graded in 1997 or '98 I believe.
    Graded with SGC before PSA graded the tallboys.

    There was an even older flip when SGC was called SBC, but I don't have any examples
    of that holder/flip.

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  • Does anyone know anything about this grading company?

    I purchased this card in the late 1990's at a local card show.
    I think it might be a grading company started by long time hobbyist
    Tony Galovich when he was based out of California. I'm not 100% sure
    of this though. Tony use to write some great articles in Tuff Stuff magazine
    in the 1990's called 'point to ponder' about the hobby.

    I still own this card. Today this would only grade a PSA 8.
    The slab is an arrowhead slab that I think was designed or patented by
    Alan Hagar. This was several years prior to PSA even existing.

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  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭✭
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    When grading first came out I was very much against it.

    I had bought this card way back in the early 90's and cracked it out...simply becayse I didn't like grading.

    I can sefly say it an old flip
    Collecting PSA... FB,BK,HK,and BB HOF RC sets
    1948-76 Topps FB Sets
    FB & BB HOF Player sets
    1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
  • I would get that Bart Starr in a fresh PSA case with my next sub. It looks really nice from here and the centering is a killer!

    Jay - Also like you, I didnt like graded cards at first. I think it had a lot to do with the fact that I didnt know much about them along with how to get them graded and second - I wasnt aware what having cards graded can do for the price. Today I consider the main attraction of my collection as my graded cards.
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