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RYK
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For quite some time, I have been looking for the perfect Bechtler dollar to add to my core "Dirty Gold" set. I had a couple of near misses in the last year or so that were picked up by fellow forum members. For some reason, Bechtler dollars have gone from plentiful, when I did not want one so much, to difficult to find. It was for years the coin that I thought I could just pick up when I decided to buy one, like an MS-65 Saint (not exactly!).
I was getting desperate and decided to bid on a bent example in an ICG holder in a Great Collections auction and won the coin. It looked nice and original in the photo and even better in hand. In and out of the holder, the "bend" is difficult to appreciate. Around the same time, CRO was offering a Bechtler dollar in a grade and price point that was in my sweet spot...but wait, I just won the GC auction Bechtler dollar. Nonetheless, I had John send the Bechtler, and even considering the higher price, I liked the CRO Bechtler dollar considerably more than I expected. So after looking a few years for the perfect Bechtler dollar for my collection, I now have TWO!
BTW, I have a similar story for an 1849 half cent that I have been trying to buy for nearly 10 years!
I was getting desperate and decided to bid on a bent example in an ICG holder in a Great Collections auction and won the coin. It looked nice and original in the photo and even better in hand. In and out of the holder, the "bend" is difficult to appreciate. Around the same time, CRO was offering a Bechtler dollar in a grade and price point that was in my sweet spot...but wait, I just won the GC auction Bechtler dollar. Nonetheless, I had John send the Bechtler, and even considering the higher price, I liked the CRO Bechtler dollar considerably more than I expected. So after looking a few years for the perfect Bechtler dollar for my collection, I now have TWO!
BTW, I have a similar story for an 1849 half cent that I have been trying to buy for nearly 10 years!
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I also liked the CRO coin when I saw an image of it go up on the CRO website.
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<< <i>Sweet! Looks like someone is a little confused as to which is the obverse and which is the reverse
Not me, the folks at PCGS. I know exactly which way it should be.
Before you run off and buy another one of these things...
Perish the thought!
at least buy the book:
Barfield R & Strawn K/"The Bechtlers and their Coinage: North Carolina Mint Masters of
Pioneer Gold"
That, I will do.
Very nice coins BTW. Congrats!
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<< <i>Sweet! Looks like someone is a little confused as to which is the obverse and which is the reverse
Not me, the folks at PCGS. I know exactly which way it should be.
I didn't specify who
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
<< <i>I like the top one best.....I assume that is the CRO coin.
Actually, no.
Bingo. Major congrat's!
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<< <i>Must have been the Steelers edition CRO hat that was included in the box.
Close! University of Miami.
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If I'm reading Kagin's book correctly, you have the two varieties of the August Bechtler coinage: the top coin appears to be Kagin 24 (which he lists as an R3), while the bottom coin is a Kagin 25, which he lists as an R8.
He also says that the K24 has a plain edge while the K25 has a reeded edge - oddly, he doesn't mention the dentils as an identifying characteristic.
Now you'll just have to get the C. Bechtler dollar coins, of which Kagin lists four varieties.
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<< <i>RYK,
If I'm reading Kagin's book correctly, you have the two varieties of the August Bechtler coinage: the top coin appears to be Kagin 24 (which he lists as an R3), while the bottom coin is a Kagin 25, which he lists as an R8.
He also says that the K24 has a plain edge while the K25 has a reeded edge - oddly, he doesn't mention the dentils as an identifying characteristic.
Now you'll just have to get the C. Bechtler dollar coins, of which Kagin lists four varieties.
No Reeded Edge. It must be the Discovery Piece of the K-26.
I should have checked Breen before posting (and not relied on Kagin's not very good pictures):
Breen says the reeded edge coin (K25) is extremely rare.
Of the plain edge coin (K24), he says: "Dentils first blur, then fade out; light die cracks develop; dies become increasingly rusty. Rusted-die coins include many struck by Christopher Jr. Walton's hoard contained 98 specimens, early and late states. Survivors are believed to number over 400, by far the most plentiful single var. of private gold coins."
So now I'd say that you have two die states of K24 (which is apparently so common that if it were a Federal southern gold coin you'd hardly consider buying it).
Check out the Southern Gold Society