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I know it's more like guess the grade (of the image), but let's give it a shot anyway.

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    oh what the hay, i'll go 67
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭
    Looks really nice.

    I wouldn't have a problem with 66.


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  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭
    MS 66
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm in the 66 guess camp also.

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm in the 65+ to 66 camp.
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  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭✭✭
    here's another obverse pic if it helps
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭

    That thing looks to be dripping with creamy lustre. Super nice. Maybe a + bump.
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  • michiganboymichiganboy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭
    'm goona say MS65
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  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    65+ to 66 from these pics. Lovely.

    Eric
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  • Lehigh96Lehigh96 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭


    << <i>66+. >>



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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66. Higher wouldn't surprised me. Clean right field. Depends on the lustre. Nice coin. MJ
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66, shot @ 67

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  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll give it a 66...looks pretty clean.
  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65 due to nick on outstretched arm and weakish strike. Shouldn't this date come well struck?
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66+

    But would concede it could go even higher.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll go MS65 too... I like this 45-P especially the hand strike image
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  • RebelRonRebelRon Posts: 544 ✭✭
    I think its a 65.
    A plus mark-maybe.image
  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66+
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too many high grades being guessed. I think we will be hosed and this will end up being a 63 or 64. Too many people leaning one way. Pics of white Walkers can be tough (both ways) Watch it be a 67 and egg on my face

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  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Too many high grades being guessed. I think we will be hosed and this will end up being a 63 or 64. Too many people leaning one way. Pics of white Walkers can be tough (both ways) Watch it be a 67 and egg on my face

    MJ >>



    I think your first comment was right, that with white coins like this, it comes down to in-hand luster.
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,491 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS slab, so I'll wager 66+.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK it's not morning any more what is it?

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  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭


    << <i>Too many high grades being guessed. I think we will be hosed and this will end up being a 63 or 64. Too many people leaning one way. Pics of white Walkers can be tough (both ways) Watch it be a 67 and egg on my face

    MJ >>



    While I was thinking along similar lines, I wasn't thinking 63 or 64. If the coin is mint state, and I believe it is, it's definitely a 66...if the luster is that good in the photo, it's probably unreal in hand. I think there's an outside shot of the coin being an AU58, possibly why the op offered another obverse photo to "help".
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  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Too many high grades being guessed. I think we will be hosed and this will end up being a 63 or 64. Too many people leaning one way. Pics of white Walkers can be tough (both ways) Watch it be a 67 and egg on my face

    MJ >>



    While I was thinking along similar lines, I wasn't thinking 63 or 64. If the coin is mint state, and I believe it is, it's definitely a 66...if the luster is that good in the photo, it's probably unreal in hand. I think there's an outside shot of the coin being an AU58, possibly why the op offered another obverse photo to "help". >>



    Yes and yes, despite my own 65+-66 guess. There are too many hot spots that wipe out and/or obscure surfaces and potential marks. I was giving the benefit. For now image O considered the 58 theory but again the photos make that determination difficult or impossible. Looks a good strike on the Obv., but there is what could be seen as light rub on the breast etc on the Rev.
    When's the big reveal???

    Eric
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66
    When in doubt, don't.
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭✭
    67
  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭
    image

    Drumroll please.......and the grade is........
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  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Show me an AU58 with the luster and perfectly clean fields that this coin has.
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  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭


    << <i>Show me an AU58 with the luster and perfectly clean fields that this image has. >>



    Fixed. image
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  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    The luster is strong as it appears in this lighting. The bite on the arm and hand preclude it from 67 or 66+ - I'll roll back to my 65+, or less? The breast is lit in such a way as to make a determination hard, but the leg and its chatter, and hit(?), do appear MS, although the same spot above the knee some is not really readable in either photo. The few moments in Photoshop bear what I said earlier - to much light from too many angles and too many overtly white spots that obscure actual surfaces. The leg hit and chatter come and go likely from lighting, likely not w/o reason. The Obv. seems wear free, the Rev. seems MS assuming the leg and breast is strike related which it looks, but again so much is hidden by what looks like omni directional lighting which jacks luster. In re-reading the thread I see I was asked to grade a photo, not a coin. I'm not grading this photo. One might guess 64-65, one might not. I am just awake so I may be over thinking this, but I could never buy from images like these. I take back my initial strike observation as this is a photo more than a coin erring with caution. Rev strike leaves wanting.

    Eric image
  • michiganboymichiganboy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭
    So whats the grade?
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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice luster, minimal marks and well struck. I think the coin is a 66 or 66+.
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  • LucanusLucanus Posts: 424 ✭✭✭
    66+ or 67
  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭


    << <i>66+ or 67 >>



    It does look extremely lustrous and mark free, but for a 66+ or higher, I'd have to see a needle-sharp strike.
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  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry about disappearing for while, had some things come up. Here she is

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    I took an honest picture of the coin, meaning I wasn't intentionally trying to hide anything. This really is what the coin looks like. There may be a smidge more chatter on the right obverse field that the image didn't pick up. It's very minute though.

    I guess this post could go side by side with the post showing how different a proof can look with just a bit of tinkering with lighting, angles, etc.

    I was really surprised when she came back 63, I was hoping for a 65 or even a 64. Part of the game I guess. Thanks for all the responses and again sorry for the delay.
  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭
    I would love to know why that coin got a 63. Years ago, I put together a gem short set in PCGS plastic. I looked at hundreds of coins over a three or four year period and NEVER saw a 63 that looked like that.

    The only thing I can think of that makes any kind of sense is the coin has a little bit of rub. And since it's so lustrous and mark-free, it was market graded instead of AU'ed. I'd bet if you cracked it out and put it on Ebay with those pics and no reserve, it would bring more than 65 money.
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  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow.

    If the grade doesn't fit, you MUST resubmit!
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow.

    If the grade doesn't fit, you MUST resubmit! >>



    Hard to grad coins from the photos, but my initial reaction was 66 as well.

    Tom

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only reason I didn't guess 66+ based on the initial photos was the coin appears it was lightly dipped or MS70'd somewhere along the way.
    The mega grades I've seen tend to be stone cold original, with haze, toning, etc. as testimony to their originality.
    That grade of 63 really surprises me.....go get ya a gold sticker on it!
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  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MJ called it.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MJ called it. >>



    My initial reaction was the same as everyone else. Gem Mint +. Only after looking at it a couple times did it register that it might be less ( white coins and lustre on photos is hard to differentiate and hidden marks). With all that said, it still appears better then a 63.

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    63? Are you kidding? That coin looks 65+ all day long.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it would be out of the holder and making the trip again with the next group of Economy tier coins.image
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