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Grade the Jefferson Nickel.

keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
Each coin is in a PCGS holder with one graded higher than the other. Can you share why you believe one is of better quality, graded higher and what you believe makes it a finer coin than the other?? Thanks in advance.

Al H.

Coin A.
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Coin B.
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,732 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Each coin is in a PCGS holder with one graded higher than the other. Can you share why you believe one is of better quality, graded higher and what you believe makes it a finer coin than the other?? Thanks in advance.

    Al H.

    Coin A.
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    Coin B.
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    They're very nice coins and what I used to call "21 steppers".

    The problem with the pre-65 issues is that they were all saved in massive quantities and
    most dates came nice enough that collectors are much less concerned with quality. The
    '50-D is one of the better dates and there are still more than a million of them in Unc.

    Then again either of these coins is close to what anyone is seeking if he wants the best.
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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coin A - 67FS
    Coin B - 66FS.

    Both are beautiful pieces. Coin A IMHO appears to have a stronger strike and WOW factor color.
    Coin B is nice but not as crisp almost looks PL.
    Nice pieces Al. I would be proud to own these.

    EDIT: These are proofs right?
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  • TallGuyTallGuy Posts: 122 ✭✭
    Coin A PR-66 shot PR-67
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  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    1st coin MS-66FS excellent example...this might also be close to a 67

    2nd coin MS-65FS couple of ticks on obv, carbon spot on rev. detracts.
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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A is PF66 or 67 with nice color and has a lot more eye apeal

    B is PF65 or 66 with carbon spots

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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh and are they atributed as steps of 40??

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  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭
    66 for the toned one 67 for the white one.

    The 67 has - nasty dings on the jaw. a nasty spot on the reverse. haze, which is uncommon for the 39r40. they generally come nicer.

    I like the toned one better. Less surface damage and the toning masks any carbon spotting quite nicely.
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A -- 67FS (because of originality)
    B -- 66FS (because of marks/planchet roughness on jawbone)
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK, enough with the suspense since i know you guys are on the edges of your seats anticipating what the grades are.

    Coin A.-----this is a coin i purchased around 2003-4 in an ANACS PR66 holder and it crossed over raw to the same grade at PCGS. the obverse color is nice(a rainbow stripe across the middle of the coin), there are only a few small contacts overall and the strike is quite good. the flatness in front of Jefferson's ear is typical and the shoulder shows what i believe to be a die polish area common, especially on 1941 dated coins.

    Coin B.-----this is a coin i saw for sale in a PR67 secure holder which makes me think i need to have my early Proofs re-graded. except for a few faint scuffs it appears to be absent any post-strike contact marks though it does have unstruck flaws smack dab in the middle of the coin. the strike is about the same as the first coin and shows a slightly better obverse but weaker reverse. with all that said, the coin is lifeless, showing the results of an overzealous dip which i presume had hoped to result in a Cameo designation.

  • I think #2 got the higher grade even with the cheek hits it IMO is much more well struck then #1.....which is a very pretty coin.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    PR67
    MS65FS
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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    PR 66
    PR65
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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Should have read the thread!image
  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WOW, I guess PCGS does like em white, I agree Coin B does look like its been dipped

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    just the level of marks.

    I still like A over B
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  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭


    << <i>WOW, I guess PCGS does like em white, I agree Coin B does look like its been dipped

    Steve >>



    PCGS might like them white at 67, but 68s are almost always toned.

    At least when it comes to 38-42 Jeff proofs.

  • I could never get past the two gouges on the jaw of the white one. Given a choice between the two, I'd take the toner all day.
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    No way does coin B deserve 67. The spot in MONTICELLO and the hits on Jefferson's color and jaw should preclude such a lofty grade.


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