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rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
This 1869-S Seated half ha been re-engraved to sharpen the obverse detail, and the seller's name is "sharp_ideas." Sharp ideas indeed! Pass the engraving tool please.... I'm sure the seller(s) did not notice it, as they seem reputable, but the coincidence with the seller's name is too funny not to post.


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  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Did you contact the seller?
    Becky
  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,092 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They didn't even finish the job on that half dollar!

    With the name of the seller, I can see why you posted it, kind of like the former coin dealer, Brett Bogus.
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    Good pick up. That obverse has definitely been reengraved. We see this quite a lot in the smaller denominations, particularly the half dimes, and particularly the San Francisco issues, as they were frequently made into buttons, with a loop soldered to either the obverse or reverse. Today the loops are removed, and the surface where the loop was soldered is often reengraved, usually quite crudely. This coin presumably was not made into a button, and the 'reengraver' was at least familiar with the original design. Not a bad job, but damage nonetheless.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if there was a button-type mounting on the obverse that was removed, necessitating the re-engraving?
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  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    not a bad job, i recall a seated quarter in PCGS plastic on here a few years ago where someone pronounced it as re-engraved and the poop storm that followed it
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    "I wonder if there was a button-type mounting on the obverse that was removed, necessitating the re-engraving?

    I suppose it's possible, but that would have been one huge button, perhaps for an overcoat?
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I suppose it's possible, but that would have been one huge button, perhaps for an overcoat?


    Maybe a pimped-out overcoat with 6 Seated half buttons down the front, for a 19th century lover of bling? image
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When the detail is that well and cleverly done there should be a premium- kind of like Hobo nickels and the such.

    peacockcoins

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wrote to him about it, and he said that he would add a mention of the re-engraving, and he has.
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Good pick up. That obverse has definitely been reengraved. We see this quite a lot in the smaller denominations, particularly the half dimes, and particularly the San Francisco issues, as they were frequently made into buttons, with a loop soldered to either the obverse or reverse. Today the loops are removed, and the surface where the loop was soldered is often reengraved, usually quite crudely. This coin presumably was not made into a button, and the 'reengraver' was at least familiar with the original design. Not a bad job, but damage nonetheless. >>




    I love this guy! image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,859 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"I wonder if there was a button-type mounting on the obverse that was removed, necessitating the re-engraving?

    I suppose it's possible, but that would have been one huge button, perhaps for an overcoat? >>



    Since there is re-engraving only in the central area of the coin, I agree there was probably a mount removed. Too large for a button and more likely a broach pin of some kind.

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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    the seller disclosed that its been altered at least. Kind of sad this coins fate ,as the coin in question looked like a decent example for what it was. image
  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    What about the bust quarter he has?
    Looks kind of odd with several raised
    areas of metal ?

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