Sellers who sell raw and graded question

rabbitpunch

If you're looking to buy raw, would you buy from a seller that also sells a ton of graded cards?

Goodsport40

No unless you are looking for NM cards.


Robert

WinPitcher

Is the plastic included in the overall weight?

PS: Love your teeth btw.

epatmythes

It depends what their selling mix is...

For example,

If they are selling the same card raw and graded... absolutely not!

Are they selling modern raw and older stuff graded, or vice versa... yeah, perhaps!

Do they have the high dollar stuff graded, and a lot of the mid-to-lower teir stuff raw... absolutely!

I know for me, I bust & grade a lot of modern... but I'm not 4SC, PSA-Set-Guy, etc. I don't submit everything under the sun, especially every card of players that have registry sets (IE. Jeter, A-Rod, Chipper, Frank Thomas, Ripken, etc.). I do Pujols though, but it's no secret that 90% or more of them are for my personal collection first-and-foremost. I usually pull out the hot rookies or guys I collect and get that stuff graded. On ocassion, I might throw in some of the hotter cards to a sub if I think the return "might" be worth it. Otherwise, 90% of the stuff I rip never gets graded... and the good from that, always goes to eBay raw.

Really just comes down to watching what they usually sell, and how they sell it!

WalterSobchak

If the seller had a good track record of buyers being happy with their recent raw card purchases, sure.

Note that it's not very often I will spend more than about 25 or 30 bucks on a raw card.

bbuckner22

I can answer this as I often sell both raw and graded cards when breaking a set. It is rare to pick up a set that is 100% graded, a lot of them are half graded or less. Most of the time I will break the set as is. It also depends on how nice the raw cards are: I have a set going right now with a few stars that have mint corners but the centering isn't good enough to consider grading them. One of the other things to consider is the turn around times getting cards graded over the last year. I have probably sold more raw cards that I would have usually submitted this year because I'm afraid of have a set sit for so long waiting to get cards graded.

psychump

Check out Waverly but not any raw or graded.

ShreveBo

Why not buy from them? I'm sure everything is fine in most cases.

jeffcbay

I've been known to sell both, as I'm sure most of us do. I provide large and clear scans of both sides, and describe any flaw in the card that's not obvious in the scans. I've never had a complaint. Believe it or not, not everyone collects graded cards. In fact, I think we're in the minority.

itzagoner

there's a few dealers i'd consider for raw & graded, definitely apple383.

if i'm working on a raw set and the card fits the condition, i'm all over it.

buying graded cards is all about speculation and the potential for moderate or better growth, at least to me since i don't have any Registry sets.

now, as to the question of being able to secure a raw card with the intention of grading it for profit, the likelihood of finding that kind of card from an experienced dealer is pretty slim.

but......it does happen.

mcolney1

I buy a lot of raw commons from 4SC. I've received accurately graded NM and NM-MT cards from them. I'm sure there is no profit motive for 60s and 70s graded football commons unless they are low pop or come in as a 9 or 10. It's just not worth the time and expense to get them graded.

HankAint

Is it improper to mention the CS4 and england conspiracy here ? (names masked to avoid damage). I sell both, at a small time level, and I know the folks looking at the auction know I sell both because it is a smaller niche with a known collecting community. I will always clearly state 'not for grading', or clearly document the flaws of the cards so the lookers know what they will get.

I don't support buying from big time dealers who sell massive graded cards, but also sell raw. It's kind of common sense not to buy from them raw if looking for actual high grade. If a trusted description is documented, then all should be fine correct ?

mtcards

I think it would depend on what you are looking for. If you are wanting a nice clean card, that might have a minor flaw or two, then you shouldnt have any problem. If you are looking to buy raw and then get it graded to turn a profit, the answer is no, since you will never get a high grade card since more than likely, if it was high grade, it would have already been graded

MiniDuff

it depends on the seller. i would never buy raw from england with any expectation of it being worth grading. set fill, sure. when they call a set or lot nm/mt it means that is the condition of the best card, not the average. i speak from expensive experience.