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burke23
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1 1 20307095 GEM MINT 10 1986 FLEER 57 MICHAEL JORDAN Card
Now - in the interest of being forthright it was a bgs 9.5, but still.
Edit - here it is!
1 1 20307095 GEM MINT 10 1986 FLEER 57 MICHAEL JORDAN Card
Now - in the interest of being forthright it was a bgs 9.5, but still.
Edit - here it is!
Looking for rare Randy Moss rookies and autos, as well as '97 PMG Red Football cards for my set.
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Rick just sold a PSA 10 for ten grand. He just sold a bgs 9.5 for six grand.
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Rick just sold a PSA 10 for ten grand. He just sold a bgs 9.5 for six grand. >>
Oh - for sure I will be hitting him up to confirm the psa 10 sale went through. If so he may have another coming his way.
T222's PSA 1 or better
<< <i>Great card! Did you crack it out or send it in to PSA in the holder? >>
Actual crossover - didn't have the cajones to crack it. I will have to check the pop report overall - had no idea how many 10's there were before pmcollecteurs post.
~WalterSobchak
This card got me excited because growing up like everyone else who was paying attention Jordan was the Ted Williams or Joe Dimaggio of our time a living God. If you took Kobe and Lebron combined them they would still be in Jordan's shadow. Will anyone 20 years from now be like dang he's got the Lebron 8's or the retro Kobe 6's please. Here is something Jordan picked up in college a place I attended but never finished...class and glamour and he did it in one of my favorite places North Carolina. I mean who wants a retro high school jersey.
I could go on for days about how big this guy was. I mean take Kobe, Lebron heck throw in Tiger still not even close.
Maybe history will prove me wrong and Tiger will win all those majors he was destined to win and Lebron will go on to win all the titles.
I actually think Kobe has provided moments as great as Jordan, and probably Lebron too. Watching those guys in Slam Dunk contest right out of high school they were unreal and Tiger was more dominating and Jordan probably wises he was Tiger, but that speaks to his competitiveness remember the baseball thing the guy was insane that would be like Bo Jackson deciding he was gonna play in the NBA as well.
So before and after pics please oh wait your telling me that bump was worth more than my whole collection, and both my cars combined. Oh well at least I was happy for someone today, a total stanger the easiest kind of people to be happy for.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Congrats! Hope you make a killing on the sale!
mathew
drugs of choice
NHL hall of fame rookies
<< <i>Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 20307095 GEM MINT 10 1986 FLEER 57 MICHAEL JORDAN Card
Now - in the interest of being forthright it was a bgs 9.5, but still. >>
Very nice, when did you buy that bgs 9.5 and what did you look for when you bought the 9.5?
Thanks,
BC
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To say its not rare is kind of silly.
Please make sure to scan it and show us the gem once its in your hands.
Now cross it to a BGS 10 and buy a Mickey Mantle Rookie with the proceeds and I'll be impressed.
TheClockworkAngelCollection
Bet we see a uptick in BGS 9.5 auctions prices by wanna b crossovers.
Cakes - I bought the 9.5 less than 2 months ago with the explicit purpose of trying to cross. I see lot's of 9.5's out there, but I was picky as to which one I purchased. Had to be at a price with flip capability if it crossed (so no .5 from BGS 10), yet still have the eye appeal of a potential 10. It was a bgs 9.5 with 10 centering, 9.5 corners and edges, and 9 surface. Surface had no obvious print spots, the corners and edges looked fantastic (the main concern with 9.5's regardless of subgrades), so I took a shot. I did overpay for the subgrades I had (at least considering it wasn't rick or PWCC selling the 9.5), but scared money don't make money - ha.
Funny thing - I did a 5 day sub insured at $2k (cost was considerably more to insure for accurate amount). Well it logged 7/20 and just popped today after I emailed them for an update. A lady emailed me back that it popped a 10 but the value is significantly more than the insured amount so in order to release they needed the ok to charge for a sub at a higher level with more insurance. Ended up being like $90 - I told her that was juuuust fine.
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He said earlier he sent it in the holder becuase he didnt have the junk to crack it out and risk damaging it.
Either way, crossing over to a 10 is tremendous. Congrats on what is already a great purchase and will def turn out to be a profitable one.
<< <i>That's interesting about the postage. I don't think PSA should worry about the value after they grade the card. Just grade the card. From my experience...the declared value is not just for insurance. Congrats; but I'm surprised it got the 10 because of the crossover usual crap. >>
It was the service level they really kicked up - they forced me to upgrade to the walkthru service ($5k+, Same Day turnaround). This cracked me up because they had it for around 15 business day (excluding the national). This would have made Pete angry had it not crossed
And yes - I am surprised it crossed too - done pretty well with crosses before, but never a card of this magnitude. The lady who emailed me congratulated me, so i can only assume it's a rare occurrence.
I wonder how many PSA 9s there actually are due to so many re-slabs.
Congrats. All I got to say is I agree with Billy Bob and give it a 10! I give it a TEN
<< <i>So they grade the card and say you owe more money based on the grade it was assigned. Like I said...congrats; but that goes against the very guidelines that they have in place for submitting cards and declaring value. If I send a raw Jordan in and think it's a 10....I should have to pay the service level of a card worth near $10000..... I would email Joe. I know you're happy with the 10. You did not just pay for insurance, you paid for a higher service level? I could understand PSA calling you saying "Congrats your card graded a 10...would you like us to insure it for more than $1999?" But also charging you a higher service level..................that's not right. >>
I hear what you are saying. I didn't send in raw so I sort of see their point that $1999 was undervalued, but the fact that they kicked me to the level over $5k is kind of silly (since most 9.5's sell for under $5k). I might ping Joe and ask him what's up because that would save me $60 to go down to the 2 day/$4999 and less level. Especially since I got nowhere near even 5 days turnaround time.
It's beating a dead horse, but forcing service levels based on value is fine as long as they turn the stuff around that quickly to justify it on our end.
Declared values are for insurance values only. I could see them not wanting to ship the card back insured for less than "10" value, and that is fine, but no way I agree on the higher service level. It is not like you were sneaking it thru with commons. It is a Jordan already graded 9.5
1957 Topps 99% 7.40 GPA
Hank Aaron Basic PSA 7-8(75%)
<< <i>I too see a major problem with the way they made you up your service levels. There is no service level for what a "10" would command. We as consumers cant determine the grades our cards are going to recieve and plan to submit them at that level. If tht was the case I wqould declare all of my 50's cards as 8's and when they came back 6-7s I should vall ask ask for some monmey back.
Declared values are for insurance values only. I could see them not wanting to ship the card back insured for less than "10" value, and that is fine, but no way I agree on the higher service level. It is not like you were sneaking it thru with commons. It is a Jordan already graded 9.5 >>
+1
It's instances like these where it comes off as a money grab. We have to pay them more because our card is in nice condition? Huh?
<< <i>So they grade the card and say you owe more money based on the grade it was assigned. Like I said...congrats; but that goes against the very guidelines that they have in place for submitting cards and declaring value. If I send a raw Jordan in and think it's a 10....I should have to pay the service level of a card worth near $10000..... I would email Joe. I know you're happy with the 10. You did not just pay for insurance, you paid for a higher service level? I could understand PSA calling you saying "Congrats your card graded a 10...would you like us to insure it for more than $1999?" But also charging you a higher service level..................that's not right. >>
I would agree that doesn't seem right. If they had an issue with the service level it should have been when it was logged and before reviewing it. That being said, contacting a customer to ask if they would like to increase their return shipping insurance because one of their cards got a great grade, is a classy move. But only if they don't try and change you more for the review once it's already done!
Question: If a submission has more than one card in it and only one of them gets a retroactive service level upgrade would that also mean it would have to be shipped back separately?
Mark
T206 Set - 300/524
<< <i>A lady emailed me back that it popped a 10 but the value is significantly more than the insured amount so in order to release they needed the ok to charge for a sub at a higher level with more insurance. >>
That's a good problem to have. Congrats!
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<< <i>So they grade the card and say you owe more money based on the grade it was assigned. Like I said...congrats; but that goes against the very guidelines that they have in place for submitting cards and declaring value. If I send a raw Jordan in and think it's a 10....I should have to pay the service level of a card worth near $10000..... I would email Joe. I know you're happy with the 10. You did not just pay for insurance, you paid for a higher service level? I could understand PSA calling you saying "Congrats your card graded a 10...would you like us to insure it for more than $1999?" But also charging you a higher service level..................that's not right. >>
I hear what you are saying. I didn't send in raw so I sort of see their point that $1999 was undervalued, but the fact that they kicked me to the level over $5k is kind of silly (since most 9.5's sell for under $5k). I might ping Joe and ask him what's up because that would save me $60 to go down to the 2 day/$4999 and less level. Especially since I got nowhere near even 5 days turnaround time.
It's beating a dead horse, but forcing service levels based on value is fine as long as they turn the stuff around that quickly to justify it on our end. >>
Congrats Pete!
Ask for a voucher since they didn't meet the one-day turn around service level!!!!!
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stupid print dots
As someone else mentioned, 145 is hardly rare. How many people are going to spend $100,000 on this card when a couple hundred may exist? And how many more PSA 10's will exist in 10 years? There are 4-6 Jordans in every wax box so there are plenty more to be submitted. Then again, it may be the most popular card in the hobby
TheClockworkAngelCollection
Ride the Wave!!!!!!
<< <i>Great work on the crossover!!! I would love to see it when you get it back....
Ride the Wave!!!!!! >>
Funny - I was going to post a thread about that auction...what the hell is going on there?!!!
Of course he has to get this up right before I plan to consign mine to him as well. I can only hope these are legit sales (he did confirm the last one went through).
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<< <i>Great work on the crossover!!! I would love to see it when you get it back....
Ride the Wave!!!!!! >>
Funny - I was going to post a thread about that auction...what the hell is going on there?!!!
Of course he has to get this up right before I plan to consign mine to him as well. I can only hope these are legit sales (he did confirm the last one went through). >>
10K and still 7 days to go...where are we headed? 20K? 25K?
TheClockworkAngelCollection
<< <i>10K and still 7 days to go...where are we headed? 20K? 25K? >>
About the current auction. I am always leery whenever I see a zero feedback bidder bidding that kind of money.....
A zero feedback bidder is the one who pushed it to that level.
<< <i>Pete...I am gonna play devils advocate here. That is a great card and congrats, but are you SURE you want to sell it as soon as you get it back?? Who knows what they card will be worth 10 years down the road. If any basketball card will approach the 6 figure mark, I would think it would be that one.... >>
No WAY would this be a $100K+ card - there are 145 PSA 10's, plus countless more in unopened boxes that get unveiled each year. With 2,000 in PSA 9's and that many 10's, I'm shocked it has hit $10K, and can't imagine a ceiling being much higher than the present on this, based on supply....
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<< <i>Pete...I am gonna play devils advocate here. That is a great card and congrats, but are you SURE you want to sell it as soon as you get it back?? Who knows what they card will be worth 10 years down the road. If any basketball card will approach the 6 figure mark, I would think it would be that one.... >>
No WAY would this be a $100K+ card - there are 145 PSA 10's, plus countless more in unopened boxes that get unveiled each year. With 2,000 in PSA 9's and that many 10's, I'm shocked it has hit $10K, and can't imagine a ceiling being much higher than the present on this, based on supply.... >>
I know it's apples to oranges but I heard people doubting the ceiling on Mantle rookies in the early 80's and look how high that ceiling is now.
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