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I see PSA has a few in there pop report am I to assume that they consider the factory fold on the spine of the matchbook a crease? If that's the case it's too bad this is a market they could make some real loot on if they were to grade them constant with matchbook standards. The diamond matchbooks have a lot going for them. As for baseball the silver boarder set is mammoth if you consider all the color variation. For football it's pretty much one of vary few sets available from the 30's. With hockey it has big stars Howie Morenz and Eddie Shore. Finally it would even open up the non-sports market with all the movie star matchbooks.

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  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭
    I agree!!!.I had a buch of them at one time but sold them off.
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  • dtkk49adtkk49a Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭
    It would be awesome if PSA started to grade matchbooks.
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  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    Diamnod Matchbooks
    I have quite a few unfolded/unstapled/unused U1 silver border baseball, and U3 baseball matchbooks, ....known as "flats"

    wonder what they'd grade, or if they would be considered "proofs" ???
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I see PSA has a few in there pop report am I to assume that they consider the factory fold on the spine of the matchbook a crease? If that's the case it's too bad this is a market they could make some real loot on if they were to grade them constant with matchbook standards. The diamond matchbooks have a lot going for them. As for baseball the silver boarder set is mammoth if you consider all the color variation. For football it's pretty much one of vary few sets available from the 30's. With hockey it has big stars Howie Morenz and Eddie Shore. Finally it would even open up the non-sports market with all the movie star matchbooks. >>



    Anyone get some of these graded?
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  • purduepetepurduepete Posts: 791 ✭✭✭
    Yeah...but at SGC, not PSA. All 3 that I had graded were super clean but they had the normal folds on them and came back as 3's. SGC must consider the matchbook folds as creases and grade them as such...not sure how PSA grades them though.

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  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've had some graded by SGC and BVG as 3's and then tried crossover w/ minimum grade being a 3. None came back in PSA holders. These are super tough. You don't have to worry a whole lot about the creases as they'll be allowed up to as high as about a grade of 6, but you are going to have to find them without staple holes in the striker if you want a high grade. Also, all the TPG's look intensely at the striker for any wear on it at all, and that plays a big roll in the grading too. Really their baseline for a high grade one, like 7 or higher, is that it was taken from printing without being completed, before folding at the creases, before the striker was added to the cardboard and also before the staple was put in for the matches.

    Here is one PSA 7.5 baseball example and also one PSA 8 hockey example (even though the hockey one is in the holder upside down from standard placement).

    They seem to have more relaxed grading standards for the 1980 Liberty matchbooks though. I see those consistently graded higher in similar condition as compared with the various 1930's Diamond sets. Look at this one for example. I don't think it had ever been folded along the pre-set crease lines but it did get stapled, has a striker added to it, and the striker looks like it has a bit of wear. I'm thinking no higher than a 6 on this one.

  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for your input here!
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's a couple that I have in my Harmon Killebrew master set.

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    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • I didn't think PSA graded these - anyone have a graded football example?
  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here's a couple that I have in my Harmon Killebrew master set.

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    Nice looking examples you have there, congrats! By the looks of them, what you have is matchbooks that were stapled and had striker added but don't appear to have been folded at the pre-set crease lines yet, which would explain the relatively high grades.


  • Those are crazy cool Killebrews. Thank you for sharing!
  • CubbyCubby Posts: 2,096
    First time I've seen those....image


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