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Rolling Brett Butler collection thread: Topps Vault mailday 9-15-17

TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
edited September 15, 2017 8:39PM in Trading Cards & Memorabilia Forum
These have piled up over the past few months. Since I moved out of my old house last year, I feel like I can never stay caught up. Very frustrating.

First up is a 1993 Bowman match print photo, plus the card it was used to make:

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Next are some color separation proofs from 1994 Stadium Club:

Cyan/Yellow, followed by Magenta/Yellow
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Last up is the original camera-ready paste up for his 1986 Topps Super

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which goes great with this separate piece, also from 1986 Topps Super. It is a color separation film positive and was used to produce the yellow tones in the final card image.

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  • FrozencaribouFrozencaribou Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great stuff. I always love seeing the crazy stuff player collectors come up with. Thanks for sharing.

    -Nathanael
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    G, Good Stuff! I've been on the lookout as of recent for Musial vault items.
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    Love the paste up, reminds me of comic book art covers.
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    Wow, a hard core Brett Butler collector. I love it! As a Padre fan, I used to hate that guy cuz he was so pesky and always seemed to come up with a big hit with the Giants and Braves
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  • Great Stuff as always!

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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Nice pickups for the collection Geordie, but where is the Mets love. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

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    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2017 5:10PM
    > @cpamike said:
    > Nice pickups for the collection Geordie, but where is the Mets love.







  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,437 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hiya Geordie - ya gotta know I love this kind of stuff - superb pickups for your collection.

    Thanx.
    Mike
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Geordie. And 22 is my favorite number too!!!
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070
    I really like seeing all the Butler stuff you've posted since I've become a member here. In fact, I like how many non-superstar collectors are around, always neat to see those collections.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2017 9:23PM
    Today's mail brought in my third Topps contract, signed in 1991. The three contracts account for nine straight years of Butler cards: 1988 through 1997.

    The last scan is not from Topps... but it is a contract, and I love showing it off.





  • psychumppsychump Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭
    I read maladay.
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  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    Did all the players get only $75 per year from Topps, or was it tiered? Did they share in sales or have any other renumaration from being on the baseball cards? That seems like a paltry sum, especially when they had to use it for items in the Topps catalog, LOL

    Mike
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  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    Haha... His middle name is Morgan.

    The Hank Aaron signed contract is amazing, where did you find that?
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Did all the players get only $75 per year from Topps, or was it tiered? Did they share in sales or have any other renumaration from being on the baseball cards? That seems like a paltry sum, especially when they had to use it for items in the Topps catalog, LOL

    Mike >>

    Mike, I haven't seen a lot of other contracts, but it seems to me that they all were "paid" $75. It does seem a rather paltry sum, doesn't it? Can't even pocket the money, fer cryin' out loud!



    << <i>The Hank Aaron signed contract is amazing, where did you find that? >>

    Fellow board member Bob (rbdjr1) picked it up back in 2004 from an eBay auction. I remember when it came up, but I didn't have the stones to go after it. In June 2009 he posted a picture of it. I immediately PMed him, and he offered to sell it to me for the exact amount he paid for it. An incredibly nice gesture, in my opinion.
  • KremsKrems Posts: 347 ✭✭
    cool stuff!! Love the contracts!

    As far as the $75 per year goes, I was talking to an agent many years ago and if I remember correctly, most of the money paid by the baseball card companies goes to the MLBPA then back to the players as royalties as does the other licensed merchandise sales. The minor leaguers on baseball cards will receive more money though as they are not covered by the MLBPA. The players do however receive money for signing cards.

    That was a while back so things may have changes since then too.
  • saucywombatsaucywombat Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭
    Is Runge an umpire now?
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  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is Runge an umpire now? >>

    Runge the umpire is a different dude.
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The Hank Aaron signed contract is amazing, where did you find that? >>



    Fellow board member Bob (rbdjr1) picked it up back in 2004 from an eBay auction. I remember when it came up, but I didn't have the stones to go after it. In June 2009 he posted a picture of it. I immediately PMed him, and he offered to sell it to me for the exact amount he paid for it. An incredibly nice gesture, in my opinion. >>



    That was very cool of Bob. He's one of the good guys of the board.

    BTW, love your Topps contract run, Congrats!!!
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Did all the players get only $75 per year from Topps, or was it tiered? Did they share in sales or have any other renumaration from being on the baseball cards? That seems like a paltry sum, especially when they had to use it for items in the Topps catalog, LOL

    Mike >>



    When I worked for the Cubs I asked a few of the players about their baseball card compensation and they said they receive a yearly pay out from the players association. This payout includes their cut of the money they get from the card companies for rights to their likeness as well as other forms of compensation the union gets on behalf of the players. I know, back in the 80's when I worked for the team the figure one player quoted me was around 50-70K per year each player received. I am sure it has increased quite a bit more since then.
    I am on a budget and I am not afraid to use it!!
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2017 9:28PM
    fresh in from the Vault, and this goes very nicely with the Topps contracts above.

    from the auction description:
    (2) Original Topps Baseball Player Gift List File Card. Direct from the Topps Vault comes this original Topps Gift List file card. Oversize file card measures approx. 5" X 8" and is in its original state. Topps maintained gift cards like these for many years. Card contains the player's gift choices and Topps baseball card payment history. Players were eligible each year for a gift from the Topps catalog or cash in exchange for their baseball card rights.

    The first part has some cool pencil writing with some of his minor league movement in the early 80s (top left). Also noteworthy is that he was compensated a whopping $5 in 1979. Woo hoo!

    This little section was cut out from another card that wasn't included, and was stapled to the first part at the top right of that file card.


    This full-size file card has an obvious missing piece. Not sure what was written there, if anything.


  • heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
    Geordie that looks sweet.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2017 9:50PM
    This arrived a few days ago. I'm a little puzzled about the timeline on this. The previous Topps contracts were signed every three years (1988, 1991 and 1994). I'm not at all sure why this 1993 contract was needed.



    While I was looking through a stack of stuff in one of my bookcases, I came across this item that I purchased back in 2010. These are the photo match prints for his 1995 Topps Stadium Club card, front and back.

    Photo used for card front


    The seven different parallels I have for this card
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    Photo used for card back


    Finished card back
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  • calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭
    Interesting items ----- Sonny
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  • Kid4hof03Kid4hof03 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice stuff! I love the match print photos I have a stack of them in my Gary Carter collection, would love to get the 1995 Stadium photos for Bernie Williams, that is such a great set.
    Collecting anything and everything relating to Roger Staubach
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,437 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hiya Geordie

    I don't get the contract thing either - it looks like they decided - perhaps - to change the cycle by having him sign - one year later - in 1994.

    Of interest - also - is that you picked up the later contract before the earlier?

    The matchprints for the 95 TSC are very nice. Also - since there's "crop lines" on the first - it's more than just the "run of the mill" matchprint IMO.

    Thanx for sharing.
    Mike
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2017 5:54PM
    Yesterday brought one of the cooler Butler maildays I've had in quite some time: 1992 Bowman final original published negative - actual color transparency used to create the card. The actual negative is much smaller than what I've shown here - I blew it up to show detail.


    I was expecting a very cool item, and that is exactly what I got. However, I wasn't expecting what came along for the ride. It appears to be a hand-drawn mockup of what the card was going to look like. It is done on some sort of thin plastic sheet.



    Which all resulted in the final card.

  • Wow those are some really interesting items. Congrats!!!
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  • halosfanhalosfan Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭✭
    That is a very nice addition
    Looking for a Glen Rice Inkredible and Alex Rodriguez cards
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Come on Geordie, we all know you drew that picture. image

    Really cool pickup. Amazing all the stuff out there for player collectors. Congrats!!!
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    The drawn card is really neat, so what they just included it with your purchase?
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The drawn card is really neat, so what they just included it with your purchase? >>

    yeah - there was no mention of it in the description, so it was a very nice surprise.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    Some of my favorite Vault items are the 'color' proofs. I got a couple more of them in the mail recently.

    1985 Topps 'blackless' proof and 1985 Topps black & white blank back proof
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    I already had a couple others from 1985. I'm hoping I see more released at some point in the future.

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  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭
    Aren't you worried that a stranger is going to show up at your door (with Brett in tow) and demand that you burn all of your stuff?

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  • thekid8thekid8 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭
    Awesome!
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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Aren't you worried that a stranger is going to show up at your door (with Brett in tow) and demand that you burn all of your stuff?

    image >>



    That will never happen as he knows where Brett is at all times. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    Nice Geordie! You definately have got Butler covered!
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    Meh. Guess I'll just let this thread die. Looks like I'm perceived as some sort of creeper just 'cause I happen to pick up a card or two every coupla months. I'll leave you guys to your fascinating blocked bidder accounts and whining about how USPS/PSA/eBay/buyer/seller screwed me threads.
  • saucywombatsaucywombat Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭
    Nice pick ups. Always have liked 85 Topps because of the team logos being on the card. Only 85 and 87 Topps have team logos from the 80's.
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  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Meh. Guess I'll just let this thread die. Looks like I'm perceived as some sort of creeper just 'cause I happen to pick up a card or two every coupla months. I'll leave you guys to your fascinating blocked bidder accounts and whining about how USPS/PSA/eBay/buyer/seller screwed me threads. >>



    Don't let some other members get you down....I for one enjoy your posts and like to see what new items you pick up!

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  • Personally I prefer 70's stuff, anything 1985+ is pretty abundant.
  • byronscott4everbyronscott4ever Posts: 932 ✭✭✭
    I like when ToppsVault releases certain stuff over a period of time because sometimes they put up six or more items of the same player (like slides) at the same time. I like the 85 set as it was the first one I collected heavily.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    I love player collections, keep the thread going!
  • jboxjbox Posts: 408 ✭✭


    << <i>I love player collections, keep the thread going! >>



    +1
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Meh. Guess I'll just let this thread die. Looks like I'm perceived as some sort of creeper just 'cause I happen to pick up a card or two every coupla months. I'll leave you guys to your fascinating blocked bidder accounts and whining about how USPS/PSA/eBay/buyer/seller screwed me threads. >>



    I'm sorry. image

    Please come back. I don't participate in those other types of threads.
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • thekid8thekid8 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I love player collections, keep the thread going! >>




    I totally agree --- you MUST continue on -- plus it gives me some ideas for my Carter collection
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  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Meh. Guess I'll just let this thread die. Looks like I'm perceived as some sort of creeper just 'cause I happen to pick up a card or two every coupla months. I'll leave you guys to your fascinating blocked bidder accounts and whining about how USPS/PSA/eBay/buyer/seller screwed me threads. >>



    I'm sorry. image

    Please come back. I don't participate in those other types of threads. >>



    Seconded.

    I would probably collect more Brett but the Cleveland cards start me thinking about that trade and then I feel my inner Oliver Reed rising to the surface...
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2017 6:28PM
    Many player collectors get to the point where they'll take darn near anything they can get. Over the past couple of months, here are some of the random things that I've managed to grab:

    2005 Arizona Diamondbacks nameplate - this would go over his locker on road games when he was the first base coach with Arizona.


    1981 Richmond Braves postcard - I didn't know this existed until it popped up on eBay.



    1992 Topps contract from the Topps Vault - this is the 5th Topps contract in my collection.


    Reno Aces bobblehead commemorating the Aces AAA Championship - I'd love to see a bobblehead released as a player someday.



    2013 Pacific Coast League All-Star, 2013 Reno Aces (I don't have access to my scanner, so I borrowed the pic from the completed auction)
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    Nice additions!
  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭
    Really love the Richmond postcard. Didn't know about it either.
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