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SLQ preference question
39Special
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Many of the SLQ dates have equivalent values (or very nearly) between MS64FH and MS65. If that's the case, and the eye appeal of both coins is excellent, which would you rather have, the 64FH or the 65? Thanks.
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<< <i>64 FH >>
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<< <i>Most cant even tell between a 64 and 65 but they sure will notice a dished out head vs a full head. >>
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Freddie
PS...FH any day every day...If the strike don't fit you must acquit...
39Special: <<Many of the SLQ dates have equivalent values (or very nearly) between MS64FH and MS65. If that's the case, and the eye appeal of both coins is excellent, which would you rather have, the 64FH or the 65? >>
Broadstruck, Moldnut, Timbuk3: <<64FH>>
If the 65 grade SLQ has at least 55% of a head, I would rather have it over a 64FH, all other factors being equal. More pressing questions relate to the value of a 'FH' designation for two coins of the same grade, all other factors being equal. In some cases, tremendous premiums are paid for just a little more head detail. If coins with 'FH' designations are ignored, it is then not very expensive to complete a set of Standing Liberty Quarters.
Classic U.S. Coins for less than $500 each, Part 11: Standing Liberty Quarters
How will Coin Collectors Interpret Certified Coin Grades in the Future?
<< <i>How did my post get under the OP question by 39Special when I agreed with Moldnut
Posted by Nap in another thread:
<< <i>I purchased a coin last night, was 2014 still for me but 2015 where the seller was located..... >>
He reached into the future and purchased a coin..... He clearly caused an interruption of the numismatic space-time continuum which resulted in your new post appearing
in a point in time ahead of an older post.
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
i'll go ya one better
FH with FL.....full lines on the badge which sits on the shield too
some full heads don't have those full lines on that badge...pointed out here
"ALOT" of FH examples have mushy lines...non "FL"
some non FH have FL on that badge
Jim
Cocoinut: << A near-FH MS64 is a bargain, IMO, especially if other design elements are well struck>>
I agree.
LasVegasTeddy: <<64 FH crowd for me>>
Is Teddy saying that he would rather have a 64FH than a 65 with 2/3 of a head that costs the same, all other factors being, more or less equal?
It seems that tremendous premiums are often paid for coins that are certified as having a FH. I would rather have a higher quality coin, with at least half a head.
Classic U.S. Coins for less than $500 each, Part 11: Standing Liberty Quarters
Also, will collectors in the future think of a FH designation as being extremely valuable and important?
How will Coin Collectors Interpret Certified Coin Grades in the Future?
<< <i>Is Teddy saying that he would rather have a 64FH than a 65 with 2/3 of a head that costs the same, all other factors being, more or less equal?
It seems that tremendous premiums are often paid for coins that are certified as having a FH. I would rather have a higher quality coin, with at least half a head.
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simple
enjoy what ya do
as it's what i do
i like full design detail to be there
give me an au58fh over some non fh 65...<<< broadstruck enlightened me with his examples...it's all about the coin...forget these #'s
i'll make exception with color of the patina
eyes will always look for defects in anything...eyes search out details...it's how our sense of sight helps our master computer brain spit out the sixth sense of being approved our not
"this effect will never recede nor go away"
so a standing liberty quarter...eyes will always go over all of the coin to see if it's acceptable or not and a flat,mushy or missing head detail
just doesn't make the muster for me
a crowd i'm not alone in...review of replies here tale a tell
confirming i am not alone in such
those articles do nothing at all for me by the way
a bunch of people stating their opinion is all
at 53
i've sorted out others opinion in life
one can have a collection of bargins
or
one can have a collection of sweet strikes
i choose the later
LasVegasTeddy:<<..it's all about the coin...forget these #'s>>
In a majority of my articles, I discuss the physical characteristics of specific coins. I try to persuade collectors to think about the coins themselves, rather than focus on certified grades as many coin buyers do. Indeed, other than a few auction cataloguers ('with tied hands'), there is no one who writes more about specific coins than I do.
LasVegasTeddy:<<those articles do nothing at all for me by the way/ a bunch of people stating their opinion is all>>
I hope that Teddy is not lumping two very different articles together and drawing a conclusion about hundreds of other articles that he has not read.
The series on classic U.S. coins for less than $500 each is aimed at collectors with such budgets, especially beginners or collectors who are 'new' to particular series. These are not aimed at collectors who have been learning about U.S. coins for decades.
The latest in that series: Copper-Nickel Indian Cents
The article on grading interpretations in the future is NOT just "a bunch of people stating their opinions'! Indeed, it is an article that people who 'buy the coin, not the holder' should read and, hopefully, it will be illuminating to people who blindly 'buy the holders.' The revelations by the contributors relate to realities and are, I believe, educational. It does not make sense to collect coins in a vacuum; it makes sense to learn about the coin market environment.
Besides, experienced collectors can influence trends and 'make a difference.' IMO, we should all be concerned about grade-inflation, coin doctoring and the well being of the hobby overall. Is Teddy saying that he is only concerned about the striking detail on coins and no other topics regarding coins?
How will Coin Collectors Interpret Certified Coin Grades in the Future?
LasVegasTeddy (slightly edited):<<One can have a collection of bargains or one can have a collection of sweet strikes; I choose the latter.>>
This is a curious response to Cocoinut's point, << A near-FH MS64 is a bargain, IMO, especially if other design elements are well struck>>
I am interested in the fact that, apparently, Teddy is willing to pay a much higher price for a SLQ with the best strike imaginable over one that is otherwise equal yet has perhaps 75% head and 85% shield detail.
I was not suggesting that all collectors seek bargains. On the contrary, I often praise collectors who pay strong prices for terrific coins in auctions.
Generally, the greatest or most interesting collections are not formed by collectors seeking bargains. Louis Eliasberg was not trying to find bargains. Gene Gardner did not seek bargains. Gardner assembled the all-time best collection of Liberty Seated coins and probably the all-time best set of Barber Quarters.
The Incredible Gene Gardner Collection, Part 5: Finest ‘No Motto’ Liberty Seated Half Dollars
As I said, in one particular series of articles, I am, with other contributors, providing advice to collectors with a $500 per coin budget limitation and I wish for that series to be accessible to beginners who may not understand the significance of incredible shield detail on an SLQ. I have and will write about SLQs in other contexts. A reason for posting in this thread was to find out how experienced collectors feel about paying substantial premiums for SLQs with FH designations. I thank those who answered this question.
as my stance is one that jeffro tull sang about "thick as a brick"