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When are people finally going to realize that...

celesterussellcelesterussell Posts: 354 ✭✭
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People can charge whatever they want for their baseball cards........

In the USA all men are created equal but some are more equal than others....

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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    .... but if the prices are outside the norm, sellers will be mocked and ridiculed openly.
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  • celesterussellcelesterussell Posts: 354 ✭✭
    As is your prerogative.

    Do you think that they care that they will be mocked?

    Why should they?
    In the USA all men are created equal but some are more equal than others....
  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096
    As long as there are people who charge more for cards than what they 'usually go for', there will be an endless supply of people waiting in line to take personal offense to that practice.

    Not sure why that is, but if it's still happening now after all these years it's not going to stop.
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  • gregmo32gregmo32 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭
    This dynamic has been around for thirty years. Somehow, people don't grasp that this is the process by which a card ”goes up.”
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  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    people don't grasp that this is the process by which a card ”goes up


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  • pmcollectourpmcollectour Posts: 1,211 ✭


    << <i>This dynamic has been around for thirty years. Somehow, people don't grasp that this is the process by which a card ”goes up.” >>




    That's absolutely correct.


    I remember when we had card shows and we didn't have the internet to replenish stock.
    Dealers would sell out of product so quick, and couldn't replace it.
    So they wised up and started charging higher prices. It may have taken a few more weeks to sell it instead of right away, but it did sell.
  • mcadamsmcadams Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭
    The sad fact is that many sellers target uneducated and uninformed buyers. Some sellers don't want to deal with someone who's been in the game for 20 years who knows how to negotiate....they'd rather overcharge some wife by 30% who is buying a card for her husband or son. Some people walk into shows like the National and actually pay asking price, simply because they don't know any better. That is why sellers have ridiculous asking prices and absurd BIN prices on Ebay. Is it wrong?..No. But lets be honest about why the pricing is set where it is.
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  • dennis07dennis07 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭
    It is really any different from buying a car. You go to the dealership and see a sticker price of 30K. You walk out later paying 25K. The dealer still made money.
    Another customer probably went in at some point and told the salesman I"ll take the blue one. That's why the MSRP is set so high.
    I believe the customer for any product should educate themselves and if they don't and they overspend I don't see that as being the sellers fault.




















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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>Do you think that they care that they will be mocked? Why should they? >>



    The people with the money to spend don't care either. Message boards are full of other money spenders, and sometimes it's good therapy to complain about life's troubles to peers, or something.


    It boils down to:

    Buyers: FU!
    Sellers: FU!
    Buyers: No, FU!
    Sellers: No, FU!
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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    I remember when Hurrican Hugo hit around my area and generators were selling for $5,000 and bags of ice were selling for $20. Big difference between things "going up" and preying on the uneducated/desperate......
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,200 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>People can charge whatever they want for their baseball cards........ >>




    And when will they realize that people can complain about anything they want especially dealers who try to gouge people with ridiculas prices.
  • stuckinMAstuckinMA Posts: 95


    << <i>It is really any different from buying a car. You go to the dealership and see a sticker price of 30K. You walk out later paying 25K. The dealer still made money.
    Another customer probably went in at some point and told the salesman I"ll take the blue one. That's why the MSRP is set so high.
    I believe the customer for any product should educate themselves and if they don't and they overspend I don't see that as being the sellers fault. >>



    So price gouging shouldn't be a legal statute?
  • gstarlinggstarling Posts: 463 ✭✭
    That's not price gouging. Price gouging is what is going on in the Hurricane scenario (at least from a legal perspective).

    As a consumer it's my responsibility to know what I want to pay, either for a car, my house, a baseball card, or my pot and pans.

    I also understand that the same freedom giving someone the ability to charge whatever they want also gives me the ability to mock them for their ridiculous prices.

    Many people walk into a furniture store, pick out their couch, and pay whatever price is on the sticker. Others don't. That's just the way things work. Nothing dishonest about asking a high price. Nothing cheap about asking the seller to lower the price.
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  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I remember when Hurrican Hugo hit around my area and generators were selling for $5,000 and bags of ice were selling for $20. Big difference between things "going up" and preying on the uneducated/desperate...... >>



    You just compared hurricane victims to people buying sports cards. Let's try to maintain some perspective here.

    There are reasonable people out there with disposable income that buy luxury items without being 100% locked into market value. No one forces these people to remain uneducated on market value. That's a choice that those people have made. When you paint these people as victims, you disrespect them as free-thinking human beings.
  • stuckinMAstuckinMA Posts: 95


    << <i>That's not price gouging. Price gouging is what is going on in the Hurricane scenario (at least from a legal perspective).
    >>



    That is incorrect...based on law, price gouging can take place at anytime. This is most common in commodities...

    Dealers can charge whatever they want, but when they do they should accept all the complaints that brings.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You just compared hurricane victims to people buying sports cards. Let's try to maintain some perspective here. >>



    I did no such thing. I was trying to make a point involving supply/demand and the corelation to high prices......
  • CocoaBeachDodgersCocoaBeachDodgers Posts: 750 ✭✭✭
    Is there a little jealousy involved here?

    If I sell my PSA 7 Koufax rookie for $950 and "wheretheyaint" sells the same card, same grade, same centering for $2100, do I get a little Jealous?

    Does that jealousy cause me to complain about what sellers are selling cards for? Maybe! Maybe Not!!image

    One thing for sure though! Sellers have the right to price cards how ever they want. Buyers have the right to complain about them. And this forum allows all of us acess to give our opinions! Oh yeah, buyers also have the right to purchase that card or buy from somebody else too!

    That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!!image
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