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Mint 1958 Pele Card and complete album on ebay, is it Fake?

eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭
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This is the 3rd one this seller has listed in the past month. He responded back to me when I asked a question on the second one he listed. I asked if it was the same one and the winner on the previous action balked... But he claimed it was a different one and the last one he had. The scans in all 3 auctions are the exact same and has been unable to pride scans of the backs of the cards. I believe this album was reproduced in the 70s and perhaps later. I'm not an expert in these but I'm pretty suspicious and just figured I'd throw the warning out there incase anyone was watching it and didn't see his previous 2 sales. I could be wrong and he could have stumbled on a "find" in brazil.. But the fact all the scans are the same and he wouldn't provide scans of the backs were red flags

http://www.ebay.com/itm/World-Cup-1958-BRAZIL-CARD-ALBUM-Sticker-PELE-BRASIL-COPA-MUNDO-PELE-Brazilian-/190707304787?pt=US_Soccer_Trading_Cards&hash=item2c670a8953
Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here

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  • EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭
    Here's a linky
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In his feedback it looks as if one sold for $250 and the buyer said better then expected.

    Not sure what that means but it could be a good sign.

  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭
    I saw that feedback. It just seems very odd to me that someone has 3 of these in perfect condition. That coupled with his inability to provide pics of the back of the cards
    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I think there could be some cultural factors involved here.... I think some of the overseas sellers are not quite as descriptive as some of the sellers here in the US. Most of the time items are overgraded overseas in my experience as well.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭
    I agree with that. The one thing that is encouraging is it looks like the staples are rusty... Also all of the items this seller has sold are from brazil. I'm not saying its 100 percent fake.. Just some red flags.
    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Now the only problem is that the Pele 1958 rookie is a decent price on ebay and it has been outted....... that is your next problem. Ha ha, I joke, but there is truth. :-)
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭
    I contacted this guy who I've been trying to buy a different pele card for a while now.. But we just haven't been able to get close on a price. He pretty much knows all there is to know about pele cards. He confirmed that this is a reprint from 1972. Apparently the real 1958 album looks different. The guy is peleseller on eBay. Prob the cards wrestlingcardking was referring to with high priced 58 cards haha
    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
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