Sent this in for crossover. Do you think it will cross? Results in.

jokingjoker · July 31, 2012 5:26AM

Currently in a ANACS 63rb holder.

Edited for wrong picture.

Results in......DNC. Ahh shoot!!

lasvegasteddy · July 31, 2012 5:28AM

looks very worthy...may even upgrade a point
goodluck...update us too...

jokingjoker · July 31, 2012 5:29AM

<< looks very worthy...may even upgrade a point
goodluck...update us too...

>>

Sorry had the wrong pics up. Correct ones are now showing.

guitarwes · July 31, 2012 5:33AM

I don't see why it wouldn't. Looks good.

jokingjoker · July 31, 2012 5:44AM

<< Just out of curiosity what type of anacs holder is he in? >>

SeattleSlammer · July 31, 2012 6:58AM

I say yes.

Timbuk3 · July 31, 2012 7:06AM

I think it will crossover
to the same grade !!!!

rainbowroosie · July 31, 2012 7:46AM

I like it.

ebaybuyer · July 31, 2012 8:02AM

i wonder what it would grade if sent in raw.

Tdec1000 · July 31, 2012 8:07AM

<< i wonder what it would grade if sent in raw. >>

Possibly a PC 4rb.

jokingjoker · July 31, 2012 8:50AM

Just got word..........DNC. Boo hoo.

WaterSport · July 31, 2012 9:17AM

ARRRGGGHHH!!! Why the heck not?? OH thats right, you give our host money and they don't tell you what not. I forgot.

WS

SeattleSlammer · July 31, 2012 9:29AM

<< Just got word..........DNC. Boo hoo. >>

Dang, that is surprising IMHO. Is it a matter of PCGS thinking it's less than a 63 or something else ..... ? Color and toning look fine from your pics.....

MsMorrisine · July 31, 2012 9:43AM

wow
color must be hiding some hits and/or chatter.

coinbuf · July 31, 2012 9:47AM

<< 

<< Just got word..........DNC. Boo hoo. >>

Dang, that is surprising IMHO. Is it a matter of PCGS thinking it's less than a 63 or something else ..... ? Color and toning look fine from your pics..... >>

Its mho that heavy woodgrain toining like this is not well received at PCGS, I have a 1916-s in an old ANA ANACS holder that looks like this coin and has been rejected once also. My coin does not have excessive chatter or marks and is struck well for the date/mm/grade but failed to cross, my only guess is that PCGS sees the heavy woodgrain as negitve from the eye-appeal standpoint.

WaterSport · July 31, 2012 11:12AM

PCGS sees the heavy woodgrain as negitve from the eye-appeal standpoint.

Bingo!

WS

DIMEMAN · July 31, 2012 11:27AM

AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!

Toning and eye appeal should have "NOTHING" to do with grade!!!!!

Grade should be detail left and number of marks......"NOTHING ELSE!!!!

ebaybuyer · July 31, 2012 11:28AM

natural toning is a negative, cleaning is a negative... a 103 year old copper isnt going to look like a 3 day old copper.

lkeigwin · July 31, 2012 11:29AM

<< Just got word..........DNC. Boo hoo. >>

Did you ask for a cross-at-grade? Or a cross with no minimum?
Lance.

jokingjoker · July 31, 2012 11:32AM

<< 

<< Just got word..........DNC. Boo hoo. >>

Did you ask for a cross-at-grade? Or a cross with no minimum?
Lance. >>

Cross at grade. I suspect it was the wood grain as well. It's a nice coin IMHO but not gonna fit in my registry set now.

lasvegasteddy · July 31, 2012 11:32AM

<< 

<< Just got word..........DNC. Boo hoo. >>

Did you ask for a cross-at-grade? Or a cross with no minimum?
Lance. >>

in this crowd too...did you tie their hands here?

jokingjoker · July 31, 2012 11:40AM

I felt surely it would cross at 63. I didn't want to risk the chance with it downgrading to a 62. 63 is the minimum grade I have set for my collection and registry set. Oh well, live and learn. I will just have to move it and buy one already in a PCGS slab. FWIW, I bought it because I thought the wood grain gave it nice eye appeal.

CEOcoinshopcom · July 31, 2012 11:43AM

Bummer.
Coin has a nice look.

comment on the grading.... technical grade is one thing, but eye appeal also is considered.
I have seen very technical high grade coins, that are ugly grade low with PCGS... and better with others.
Not sure where I stand on this one, eye appeal is in the eye of the beholder, but to keep ugly coins from invading the collectors universe, some discounts need to be taken for it.

This is an old argument, and won't be solved by a forum discussion.

Remember that PCGS holds eye appeal in the grading, so if the coin is toned, or wood grained or spotted, expect them to dink it a bit.
For registry, you have to think like PCGS does, and tech grade, and eye appeal.

For other TPG, they have different standards, so you just have to learn which way they lean.

DIMEMAN · July 31, 2012 11:46AM

I would bet that if you cracked it out and sent it in raw you would get your 63.

lkeigwin · July 31, 2012 11:50AM

A cross-at-any-grade has worked best for me. PCGS only has to feel the coin is genuine and has no fatal problem.

Then it can be cracked and all sides of the coin can be viewed. Surfaces can be examined better.

There's a reason for the low cross-at-grade percentage. PCGS has to protect itself from surprises arising after cracking.

Me, I like woody Lincolns and don't feel it's a negative. Maybe PCGS feels differently.
Lance.

lordmarcovan · July 31, 2012 12:21PM

I would have guessed it would cross.

jokingjoker · July 31, 2012 12:28PM

<< A cross-at-any-grade has worked best for me. >>

I guess that's the way to go. I sent in 16 cons in for crossover in 2 submissions, 8 on one, 8 on the other.

On the first submission I specified cross at any. All 8 crossed with 3 upgrading.

On the second submission I had all the coins at cross at minimum. 3 did not cross.

Sent this in for crossover. Do you think it will cross? Results in.

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