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BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
The other day, we went to a semi-fast food place after a movie - one of those restaurants where you order at the counter, they give you a number to put on your table, and your food is brought over a few minutes later.

Anyway, I paid with a few Kennedy halves I had laying around.
The girl looked at them, then said to her manager, "Are these legal here?"
Manager: "Turn it over. It says 'United States of America' and '50 cents.'"
Girl: "Oh. I've never seen one before. I thought maybe they were Canadian."

Next time, a few $2 bills are in order image

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    kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been to Canada, the UK and Australia where 50 cent, 2 dollar and pound coins circulate no problem. I have no idea why Americans are so against using halves, dollars, and $2 bills. Even $50s and $100s are getting to the point that only the banks will take them.
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    bosco5041bosco5041 Posts: 1,303


    << <i>I've been to Canada, the UK and Australia where 50 cent, 2 dollar and pound coins circulate no problem. I have no idea why Americans are so against using halves, dollars, and $2 bills. Even $50s and $100s are getting to the point that only the banks will take them. >>

    I will take $50 and $100 at my business all day long!!!!!!!image
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    AngryTurtleAngryTurtle Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭


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    Next time, a few $2 bills are in order image >>



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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    shame some of the more obscure denomination culls are a lil pricey
    to think she had trouble with a kennedy
    could you imagine plopping down...2 half centers..or a 2 or 3 cent... or a half dime coupled with a 20 cent...lord forbid a 1883 no cents nickel
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The other day, we went to a semi-fast food place after a movie - one of those restaurants where you order at the counter, they give you a number to put on your table, and your food is brought over a few minutes later.

    Anyway, I paid with a few Kennedy halves I had laying around.
    The girl looked at them, then said to her manager, "Are these legal here?"
    Manager: "Turn it over. It says 'United States of America' and '50 cents.'"
    Girl: "Oh. I've never seen one before. I thought maybe they were Canadian."

    Next time, a few $2 bills are in order image >>



    you have Kennedy halves that say "50 cents" on the back? All of mine say "HALF DOLLAR" image

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    hammer1hammer1 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    you have Kennedy halves that say "50 cents" on the back? All of mine say "HALF DOLLAR" image >>



    Barry needs his eyes examined by a good optometrist.
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    BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>you have Kennedy halves that say "50 cents" on the back? All of mine say "HALF DOLLAR" image >>


    Note that I didn't say that. The manager did. image


    I've been to Canada, the UK and Australia where 50 cent, 2 dollar and pound coins circulate no problem. I have no idea why Americans are so against using halves, dollars, and $2 bills.

    It doesn't take a think tank to figure out the problems:
    1. Kennedy halves are too big and heavy for daily commerce, and it's a denomination that's really not needed (like $2 and $50 bills).
    2. Dollar coins will only succeed if the rag dollar is withdrawn. I guess Crane & Co is bribing, er donating to, too many politicians, especially John Kerry, for that to happen.
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    Because we pay for our TrueViews and PCGS owns them? bs.
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    mingotmingot Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1. Kennedy halves are too big and heavy for daily commerce, and it's a denomination that's really not needed (like $2 and $50 bills). >>



    I have heard that half dollars used to circulate before the JFK half was released.

    If true, it seems strange that they were not too big then, but are too big now.

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    << <i>1. Kennedy halves are too big and heavy for daily commerce, and it's a denomination that's really not needed (like $2 and $50 bills). >>



    I have heard that half dollars used to circulate before the JFK half was released.

    If true, it seems strange that they were not too big then, but are too big now. >>



    True....but 50 cents isn't worth today as it much as it was back then..for example..based on an inflation calculator in 1950 if you bought an item for $1.00...that same item today would cost about $9.50. Compare that to carrying 2 half dollars back then to 19 half dollars today
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    mingotmingot Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>1. Kennedy halves are too big and heavy for daily commerce, and it's a denomination that's really not needed (like $2 and $50 bills). >>



    I have heard that half dollars used to circulate before the JFK half was released.

    If true, it seems strange that they were not too big then, but are too big now. >>



    True....but 50 cents isn't worth today as it much as it was back then..for example..based on an inflation calculator in 1950 if you bought an item for $1.00...that same item today would cost about $9.50. Compare that to carrying 2 half dollars back then to 19 half dollars today >>



    What's that have to do with anything? Quarters are wildly popular (WAY more popular than a half dollar) and they're worth even less...
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    JJMJJM Posts: 7,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cant really blame a young server for not being
    familiar with them, its not like there all over the place in circ.....

    if it was a SAC, or a prez, i imagine they would recognise em, more than a kennedy or Ike......
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    << <i>1. Kennedy halves are too big and heavy for daily commerce, and it's a denomination that's really not needed (like $2 and $50 bills). >>



    I have heard that half dollars used to circulate before the JFK half was released.

    If true, it seems strange that they were not too big then, but are too big now. >>



    True....but 50 cents isn't worth today as it much as it was back then..for example..based on an inflation calculator in 1950 if you bought an item for $1.00...that same item today would cost about $9.50. Compare that to carrying 2 half dollars back then to 19 half dollars today >>



    What's that have to do with anything? Quarters are wildly popular (WAY more popular than a half dollar) and they're worth even less... >>




    People don't like to carry around bulky stuff. Quarters are smaller...tollways take them, vending machines take them, washer/dryer machines take them, etc etc. What nowadays takes half dollars? A person who thinks they're Canadian currency so they have to ask the manager?
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    scotty1419scotty1419 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭

    I've been to Canada, the UK and Australia where 50 cent, 2 dollar and pound coins circulate no problem. I have no idea why Americans are so against using halves, dollars, and $2 bills.

    It doesn't take a think tank to figure out the problems:
    1. Kennedy halves are too big and heavy for daily commerce, and it's a denomination that's really not needed (like $2 and $50 bills).
    2. Dollar coins will only succeed if the rag dollar is withdrawn. I guess Crane & Co is bribing, er donating to, too many politicians, especially John Kerry, for that to happen. >>



    Other countries 50 cent pieces are of a similar size... I dont think the weight is the issue...

    2 - I agree that we need to cut the paper dollar to truly see success and acceptance with the dollar coin.

    The cent and paper lobbies are strong...
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    rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


    << <i>cant really blame a young server for not being
    familiar with them, its not like there all over the place in circ.....

    if it was a SAC, or a prez, i imagine they would recognise em, more than a kennedy or Ike...... >>



    Bingo!

    Kennedy halves haven't readily circulated.. well, not in my lifetime and I'm 37.

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    fishcookerfishcooker Posts: 3,446 ✭✭
    $50's aren't needed? Are you kidding? It takes a whole pile of $20's to buy anything.
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    BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>$50's aren't needed? Are you kidding? It takes a whole pile of $20's to buy anything. >>


    That's what $100's are for, or plastic.
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Kennedy halves haven't readily circulated.. well, not in my lifetime and I'm 37. >>




    used to see them sometimes in the 70s

    (I heard)

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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭


    << <i>Quarters are smaller... >>

    Not two of them. Two quarters have exactly the same volume and take up exactly the same space as one half dollar. image
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>cant really blame a young server for not being
    familiar with them, its not like there all over the place in circ.....

    if it was a SAC, or a prez, i imagine they would recognise em, more than a kennedy or Ike...... >>



    Bingo!

    Kennedy halves haven't readily circulated.. well, not in my lifetime and I'm 37.
    . >>



    Yep, I blame the Kennedy for killing the circulating half dollar, it made the Franklin half obsolete, became a collector's item in it's own right, and then they took most of the silver out and then all the rest of the silver out, and since, most circulate if at all, with very low velocity (get spent once, then put in a coffee can or junk drawer for another decade..) Plus, all this happened as coin operated machines became more prevalent, and not many (if any) will take a half dollar (or a penny) but all new ones take both paper and coin dollars, as well as the usual nickels, dimes, and quarters (but never pennies)

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    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've really never had a problem spending Canadian quarters,
    I've had a few casiers questions them but I just told them
    that they are Canadian State Quartersimage

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    BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Kennedy halves haven't readily circulated.. well, not in my lifetime and I'm 37.

    I get them regularly in the casino. Some places I play pay a blackjack (those that still pay 3:2 image ) with two $1 chips + a Kennedy half. I look at every one of them, check the date, etc. It's very common that that are from the 70s and 80s, MS, and have full cartwheel luster.
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    MaineJimMaineJim Posts: 740 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>cant really blame a young server for not being
    familiar with them, its not like there all over the place in circ..... >>



    They are in my town!image

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    ... and which town is that? Bangor?
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    Why is it suprising that many cashiers and servers don't recognize coins that don't circulate?

    Of course, what good are those coin designs and inscriptions when a cashier can't be bothered to read them to learn the value of a coin? Perhaps next time you should try paying with pile of washers or checkers just to see what happens?
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well after checking in on the coin that I put on a watch list two weeks ago and finding that the reserve/ opening bid is more than what the price guide says it's worth and the juice is 15% I popped the cap on a cool one and back on here.image

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    WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Clerks are warned that if they take foreign money, it will come out of their salary.

    So they are very careful about accepting strange coins or bills, even if legitimate.

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    << <i>you have Kennedy halves that say "50 cents" on the back? All of mine say "HALF DOLLAR" image >>


    Note that I didn't say that. The manager did. image


    I've been to Canada, the UK and Australia where 50 cent, 2 dollar and pound coins circulate no problem. I have no idea why Americans are so against using halves, dollars, and $2 bills.

    It doesn't take a think tank to figure out the problems:
    1. Kennedy halves are too big and heavy for daily commerce, and it's a denomination that's really not needed (like $2 and $50 bills).
    2. Dollar coins will only succeed if the rag dollar is withdrawn. I guess Crane & Co is bribing, er donating to, too many politicians, especially John Kerry, for that to happen. >>



    I spent nearly 10 years in Australia, and here's my input...
    The Australians don't have a problem with large coins circulating. Their 50 cent is not only larger in diameter (12 sided, but has a larger PCD) it is also thicker than our 50 cent. They circulate as much as any other coin. Also, the 20 cent is nearly as large as the US 50 cent.

    Interestingly enough, the $2 is smaller than the $1, both of which are some of the most common coins found in change. The 5 cent is the smallest denomination coin (all amounts are rounded to the nearest 5 cents) and the $5 note is the smallest denomination of the notes. It all seems to work quite well.

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,769 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭
    Chuck E Cheez tokens are more recognized today than half dollars!
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    1. Kennedy halves are too big and heavy for daily commerce, and it's a denomination that's really not needed (like $2 and $50 bills). >>



    I think it's more just habit. I can remember when half dollars were as common as quarters in change; all that changed in 1964 with the popularity of the Kennedy half dollar and the elimination, in 65, of most silver in coinage. Younger collectors would be surprised at the venom that was heaped on coin collectors by the Mint in those days for their "hoarding" (guess the Mint hadn't heard of Gresham's law...)

    The death of the half dollar was caused, ironically, by the popularity of the design.
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    Mission16Mission16 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Clerks are warned that if they take foreign money, it will come out of their salary.

    So they are very careful about accepting strange coins or bills, even if legitimate.

    image >>




    Sez who?

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