UPDATED w/coin in hand!!! Well I have just about given up hope... A coin lost in the mail!

2ltdjorn

Well I really enjoy double dies, and I had been looking for a nice 1984 DDO for a while. I finally found one without the dreaded carbon spots that seem to plague them. Well the coin shipped 09 July. It was marked delivered via delivery confirmation. The seller and I working to submit an insurance claim, but I am just saddened to lose a nice coin!!

Has anyone had a coin go missing?



It was marked delivered on 09 July, but to no avail! After many phone calls to the USPS, and speaking to the supervisor I had given up hope that this coin was lost. They had told me that they had checked all the slots in our communal mailbox. Well I saw the postman 2 days ago working at the box one street over, I was expecting a package and he had it waiting. I then asked him about the missing parcel, he told me he would look tomorrow, well after work I get home with my wife holding a package for me. On the box was "I hope this is the package you were looking for!". Well it was defiantly worth the wait!

Timbuk3

Not me, but good luck !!!

bronzemat

Yup, had a $35 ancient roman go missing. Dealer mailed it off the week before xmas last year along with some other packages for other folks and mine along with everyones went missing. Luckily he had them insured & a postal employee was arrested for theft.

Apparently it was an employee that was being monitored.

Owell, got a rebate and found one in better shape cheaper.

Kozman

Yes, a PCGS 1928 MS66FB Mercury Dime a few years ago. Money wise it all worked out with the seller, but the coin has never surfaced again.

Bochiman

Yes. One and only one. But it was (from the pics I saw) a very nice one
1855 large cent....sigh.....

Coin was delivered and I went to sign for it from the post office. Signed, got the package, took a couple of steps, and looked the back of the package (manila envelope). A very fine slice right through the middle, lengthwise. There were 2 coins, individually wrapped in paper, that were supposed to be there (both were raw). Only 1 was there. The paper for the 2nd one was still there, but no coin.

Since I was still in the post office, it was very easy for them to witness and I worked with the seller on it and believe he didn't have a hassle with the post office refunding him (he immediately refunded me and is a straight up guy).
So, while we both got reimbursed, there was no coin. I would have loved to have had that coin as it looked choice from the pics, and the seller only deals in very nice coins to start with.

Out of the hundreds (thousands if you could all the mint coins individually ) of coins I have shipped/received, that was the only one lost so far. I have since, when I send coins, if I use an envelope, taken to putting the paper tape across the back of the package, in a "T" type of fashion to discourage anyone from slicing it open (I believe that doing so will show a slice very easily, so they would have to flat out steal the package and not just try to steal from it and let it be delivered where that could cause someone problems dealing with the post office.....if I hadn't still been there, chatting with the employee, when it was noticed, I would have likely had a problem since they would have had my signature saying "delivered").

MVC

Yes, a couple of times, a coin did not show up. One was a PCGS MS66 Walking Liberty Half. I received a flimsy cardboard envelope with one of those strings you pull to open it. Needless to say, it was pulled open and the only thing in the envelope was the invoice. The clerk behind the counter just handed the envelope over to me as if nothing happened and asked me to sign (it was insured). I looked at the envelope, showed him it and he just shrugged his shoulders as it so say, "yeah, so what". Long story short, I filed a claim, go my money back, etc. Here was the worst part, this came from another dealer and the return address had the words Rare Coins" in it. talk about an invitation.

bosco5041

The very first coin I ever ordered through the mail got lost. I had just read an article before that that said your odds of a package getting lost was 1 in 10,000.This has been a few years ago and I have never had one lost since.

renomedphys

Even better odds with Express, and better still using a large box. I have never even heard of anyone losing a package mailed this way. Of course, Registered takes the cake, but transit times are long, and the cost is going up.

FYI, I once shipped an express large box to PCGS with $108K worth of coins in it uninsured.

Call me stupid. I have been called worse.

CEOcoinshopcom

Hold On!!!!
A coin MIA for just three weeks... still stands a chance of finding it's home.... new or old.

We have had coins show up 6 months after they were missing.

We have shipped over 100,000 packages over the years (almost 200,000 now). And we have lost 8 packages.

I'll check with shipping... but I think that's the number. GOOD ODDS

So hold out, you might see your coin materialize after all.

tahoe98

Well I have just about given up hope... A coin lost in the mail!

...that's a real disappointment to be sure. i'm truly amazed at people that send coins through the mail in such tempting packaging.

DIMEMAN

I have had 1 stolen and 1 damaged.

1 is toooo many....they should never lose a coin or any package for that matter.

What really pi$$e$ me off is that you have to prove the value. I can't scream loud enough how stupid and unfair that is. If you are dealing with varieties where there are no price listings you are $crewed. You should get the money you paid insurance for....PERIOD!!!!

You should be able to box up a dog turd...insure it for $1000....if they lose it they owe you $1000 period!!!! You pay the premium you get the money.

Most if not all of us would rather have the coin than money anyway

lasvegasteddy

my latest pcgs submission on return shipping...
went from newport beach cali to spokane wa.
hopefully they're just on a site seeing tour too and return home to "las vegas nv"...and no pcgs member in spokane says cool freebies here..

tahoe98

<< <i>I have had 1 stolen and 1 damaged.

1 is toooo many....they should never lose a coin or any package for that matter.

What really pi$$e$ me off is that you have to prove the value. I can't scream loud enough how stupid and unfair that is. If you are dealing with varieties where there are no price listings you are $crewed. You should get the money you paid insurance for....PERIOD!!!!

You should be able to box up a dog turd...insure it for $1000....if they lose it they owe you $1000 period!!!! You pay the premium you get the money.

Most if not all of us would rather have the coin than money anyway >>



...I AGREE 100%

19Lyds

<< <i>I have had 1 stolen and 1 damaged.

1 is toooo many....they should never lose a coin or any package for that matter.

What really pi$$e$ me off is that you have to prove the value. I can't scream loud enough how stupid and unfair that is. If you are dealing with varieties where there are no price listings you are $crewed. You should get the money you paid insurance for....PERIOD!!!!

You should be able to box up a dog turd...insure it for $1000....if they lose it they owe you $1000 period!!!! You pay the premium you get the money.

Most if not all of us would rather have the coin than money anyway >>

In a Perfect World, I might agree with you but certainly not about insuring a dig turd for $1,000.
You see, unlike you and me, there are folks out there that will send a bag of rocks to a buddy, insure it for $10,000, have the buddy claim he never received it, and then file the insurance claim.

Gross misuse of insurance and outright fraud yet.........folks do it.

IF I owned an insurance company, I would think it fair and require that proof of value be supported. Especially if I'd never seen the item being insured AND have no idea what the value might be. It's not like folks can be trusted unless you consider "trustee's" to be trustworthy. Prisons and jails are full of trustee's.

ebaybuyer

with the volume of mail that the PO handles daily... and the amount of hands (human) that touch each package, im surprised that such a small amount gets lost. if we were to see a picture of 10,000 pieces of mail in one pile, the concept of only one piece of all that getting lost seems almost miraculous

ebaybuyer

in a perfect world, the PO would not accept your payment of the insurance cost until the value was proven, then the proof of value wouldnt be an issue, why do that when you can just deny a claim ?

WaterSport

Lost a 1914 MS 64 RED cent I won on Teletrade back in April 2006. Partly because I moved, Partly because I lived in a Condo and it could have been put into anyones mail box.

WS

magikbilly

I have also had some things go missing and show up after extended periods. Thankfully, it is the exception. Never give up hope. Last item was a note and signed vintage hand tinted photo from the last survivor of the Titanic disaster. It apparently burst out of its heavy mailer in transit to me from the UK and showed up in a new USPS package with my address copied off a letter by some really cool postal person! I was pretty sure I would never see it again as it was clearly a valuable item and was signed to me from "the last survivor of the Titanic."

I hope your situation remains unique!

Eric

Treashunt

I have had a package with a scarce 3rd edition red book disappear.

In another instance, I received an e-mail, 'got your books, sending them back today'.


I was lost, since I hadn't sent any.
Then I remembered that I had sent some about 18 months earlier. And they had never been received.


A long week's wait and the package arrived:



Hard to see, but the post marks were almost 18 months apart.




18 months there, and 5 days back.


I had written off the shipment.

notwilight

I had an express package show up 2 weeks late. I was worried about that one.

To the OP. If it was insured, wasn't a signature required?

--Jerry

CCC2010

I have one that i have been waiting for 19 days now. Advised the seller to follow up with the post office so they can investigate. Do not want this coin any longer after all this time... but still the seller refuses to refund me my money.

2ltdjorn

The coin has turned up!!

lordmarcovan

I'm glad that one had a happy ending.

Yes, I've had a few go missing over the years. Probably less than 1%, out of hundreds if not thousands of shipments. But a few were painful.

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>I had an express package show up 2 weeks late. I was worried about that one.

To the OP. If it was insured, wasn't a signature required?

--Jerry >>



unfortunately from my experience, insurance means leave in the mail box, or the porch, maybe even the sidewalk. i'd personally rather have signature confrim than insurance for under $1000 parcels

it is either, signature with no insurance that won't sit at your porch all day ironically the day you aren't home but at least goes back to the post office OR

insured so you think you can sleep at night but extremely valuable and rare coins will sit at your porch tempting someone looking for a more valuable package while you are gone ><

guess it is risk vs cost/reward vs preference
.

OR insured with signature confirm, much more cost but a great combo
.

Timbuk3

I like happy endings !!!

MsMorrisine